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 03/18/2020 08:03 PM
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As noted by SunriseSurfer in another thread, Brevard County officials have decided to close all beach access parking in the county starting Thursday 3/19, including Patrick AFB beach access parking lots. The beach itself will remain open, but parking at all beachside parks and access points will be closed.

My question is, how does the county get the authority to close beach parking lots at PAFB? Isn't that federal military property? And if it actually is going to happen will BCSO have the authority to ticket and tow, or will it have to be at the behest of the MP's?
 03/18/2020 08:13 PM
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i believe there was an agreement between the county the cities and pafb
to close the beach parking
i know cocoa beach was in contact with the cities beachside
so all would be doing the same rather that pushing everyone into one city

also i would rather bcso ticket and tow me than go to federal court in orlando
if you were in violation on pafb federal property
you dont want to deal or argue with the mps

its just best to adhere to the rules however they got to that point
especially during this time
fight it and you will lose
 03/18/2020 08:17 PM
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GreenLantern

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you do realize brevard county is under a state of emergency
as im sure patrick is also
the government has declared it
even playalinda and all of canaveral national seashore
is closed as of tomorrow until further notice
 03/18/2020 08:18 PM
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GreenLantern

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volusia county is still open and also indian river county
but that could change very soon
 03/18/2020 10:28 PM
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Closing Canaveral National Seashore is a bit odd in that entry fees for National Parks have been dropped for the duration.
 03/18/2020 11:57 PM
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ww

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For what little it's worth, Australia is closed to foreigners starting Friday.
 03/19/2020 03:41 AM
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daner

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Originally posted by: GreenLantern

volusia county is still open and also indian river county

but that could change very soon


Yes. That's the way it works. Herd mentality.

We've survived two or three flu pandemics in the last 15 year. According to cdc this is very similar to the flu. 80% of the cases are mild.


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 03/19/2020 03:44 AM
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Not sure what gives them the "right" ....
.... but I'm sure it was in agreement with PAFB.



Brevard County COVID-19






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Edited: 03/19/2020 at 03:44 AM by SunriseSurfer
 03/19/2020 04:07 AM
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The Air Force does, and will do, what ever it wants to do at the beach.

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 03/19/2020 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by: daner We've survived two or three flu pandemics in the last 15 year. According to cdc this is very similar to the flu. 80% of the cases are mild.
it isn't the same and your comment isnt accurate, but whatever
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dingpatch

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Daner needs to Get Up To Speed on this.

https://2ndlight.com/fusetalk/...d=195464&enterthread=y

This IS NOT very similar to the "flu". It is a new breed of monster. New report from the CDC says that almost 1/2 of COVID-19 ICU patients are under 65.

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 03/19/2020 06:08 AM
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Seems pretty similar to me.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

However, compared to flu there are so few cases statistics are not as reliable.

CDC:
Severity

The complete clinical picture with regard to COVID-19 is not fully known. Reported illnesses have ranged from very mild (including some with no reported symptoms) to severe, including illness resulting in death. While information so far suggests that most COVID-19 illness is mild, a reportexternal icon out of China suggests serious illness occurs in 16% of cases. Older people and people of all ages with severe chronic medical conditions - like heart disease, lung disease and diabetes, for example - seem to be at higher risk of developing serious COVID-19 illness. A CDC Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report that looked at severity of disease among COVID-19 cases in the United States by age group found that 80% of deaths were among adults 65 years and older with the highest percentage of severe outcomes occurring in people 85 years and older.

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Edited: 03/19/2020 at 06:16 AM by daner
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Originally posted by: daner According to cdc this is very similar to the flu.
H1N1 killed 12,000 in 59,000,000 infections. According to CDC what would be the kill from 59,000,000 COVID19 infections?

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 03/19/2020 06:18 AM
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Another recent study, considered the largest on COVID-19 cases to date, researchers from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Protection, analyzed 44,672 confirmed cases in China between Dec. 31, 2019 and Feb. 11, 2020. Of those cases, 80.9% (or 36,160 cases) were considered mild, 13.8% (6,168 cases) severe and 4.7% (2,087) critical. "Critical cases were those that exhibited respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction/failure," the researchers wrote in the paper published in China CDC Weekly.

It's important to note that, because respiratory viruses cause similar symptoms, it can be difficult to distinguish different respiratory viruses based on symptoms alone, according to WHO.

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 03/19/2020 06:58 AM
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 03/19/2020 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by: daner Seems pretty similar to me.
well your article was 2 weeks old and things have changed due to more gained knowledge. symptomatically, yeah similar. but it is far more severe than the flu. it is more comparable with the 1919 flu that seasonal flu. fortunately we have much better health care now than then and the world is trying to lock itself down finally. remember this virus is called sars-cov-2. the sars meaning severe acute respiratory syndrome. part of me thinks the response would have been better worldwide initially if they had just called it sars2
 03/19/2020 09:24 AM
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Not to get too political (or racist!) but take anything the Chinese government says with a grain of MSG. Same with their apologists at the WHO.
 03/19/2020 09:47 AM
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More than 99% of Italy's coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country's national health authority......... The new study could provide insight into why Italy's death rate, at about 8% of total infected people, is higher than in other countries. The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country's coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions. More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease. from https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/99-25-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says/ar-BB11mr4X
 03/19/2020 09:52 AM
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they are also prioritizing young over old because prognosis is better and they are way above their health care system's capacity. it is important to note that 40% of the people requiring hospital stays are under 45 with this according to info released today. wonder how many younger people would die without it. lets not find out
 03/19/2020 10:09 AM
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    China and South Korea are the oldest epidemics. Despite problems with the numbers in China, the reports and studies from there are very important. The South Korea epidemic is a bit weird because it started with a single religious group, and was pretty effectively confined by following contacts. Numbers from Iran are more or less useless. Italy's problem is an old population. By contrast, Japan, with an even older population, has managed to keep the virus from getting well established.
    The US and Britain both have the virus established all over the place. I think both are in for long lockdowns.
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