So, I am thinking about moving to Portugal. I have always wanted to live in Europe and Portugal has some interesting pros, e.g. cost of living, weather, surf, etc.

Anyone has lived in Portugal before that can provide some feedback on their experience? Good surf? Cold water...

Thx - peace!

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Please stay on 2ndlight if you do.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I spent 3 weeks in January a few years ago in Ericeira, rented an air bnb and a car, drove as far south as carcavelos and as far north as Nazare. Surfed proper good waves every single day. There are so many different places to surf there. Regular foot dream. A lot of really good rights, including coxos (insane right point). Food is amazing. Everything was super cheap. I would live there if I could. I lived in San Diego before and it reminded me of similar landscape to there minus the bajillion people. Pulling up on cliffs to check waves, hiking down goat trails. Supertubos is epic. Peniche is cool too. It was my first cold water surf trip and I plan on going back after all the covid bs subsides. Who cares about a wetsuit when the waves are consistently good. Anyways wet suit technology is so dialed. 4/3 and boots in winter, trunks in summer. Go for it if you can!

Can you speak the language?

ya don't really need to, and you can get by on spanish. do yer googles Dave. there's thousands of expats there! it's another surfers paradise. shhhhh

Edited: 01/27/2022 at 06:41 AM by StirfryMcflurry

Google would tell me if hairydude can speak Portuguese?

I went there for 4 days so obviously not much to tell. Taxi driver said everybody under 40 speaks English. Best octopus dish I've ever had.

lol , obrigado Dave! & I believe tpaps also checked it out for us...

I think hairyDUDE lived in Brazil for a good while, so odds are he's at least conversant in Portuguese.

Being surrounded by Spanish speakers in Latin America, the Brazos are familiar with "Portunhol" -- a mix of Spanish and Portuguese, but not big fans of it.

With Spain and Portugal sharing a border, they have their own flavor of Portunhol, so Spanish speakers can at least get by.

The Brazos I talked with told me the Portuguese I was learning from European tapes 25 years ago sounded like their great grandfather's farm workers.

Obrigado also works in Japanese

CurtisEflush lmao

Edited: 01/28/2022 at 06:59 AM by waterlizard25

I think any time you learn a language from tapes, cd's or books, it probably makes the native speakers laugh. This is how the North Koreans learned english and used the 100 year old insult Dotard against Trump. The press had to look it up.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

so says a counselor , who can't keep the politrix over in nsr

Definitely staying here. Been a member forever

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Thanks for all the insight! Definitely seriously thinking about going.


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Hey Dave, yes. I lived in Brazil for 7 years a while back. Same language with some distinct differences in grammar and dialect.

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Portugal is beautiful. The surf is wonderful. The food is even better. I'd move there if I could. Do it!

It's true. I lived in Brazil for 7 years. It was a great experience. I would go back but since I have a family now (I didn't before) I worry more about safety and want to give my family a good opportunity to experience life abroad without worrying about safety in general. Plus Europe allows you to experience many countries and cultures for relatively cheap prices. Flight from Lisbon to Rome (and other countries) for about $40 round trip.

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I think it would be Arigato in Japanese. Close enough

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I met so many people of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo that it was hard to tell the difference between obrigado and arigato.

HD, where in Brazil did you live?