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 02/25/2020 12:13 PM
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Medpage Today has useful quotes from the CDC's expert. Winter Park member of Congress Stephanie Murphyalready convened a meeting of Orlando people--airport, tourism, medical, etc--to get started on preparation.
 02/25/2020 01:22 PM
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Can't find the article right now but, a rsearcher at Harvard says that 40% to 70% of the world's population could get it! What's the world's inventory of body bags?
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And yet, our own acting deputy secretary of Homeland Security, Ken Cuccinelli, became frustrated when he couldn't access the Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering department's map showing the latest COVID-19 numbers and locations.

There is literally an ENTIRE FEDERAL AGENCY working for you that you could ask to provide you and all Americans with the latest information on the Coronavirus! Maybe we should cut the funding for the CDC... FFS...

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost...rus-map-103720062.html
 02/25/2020 01:52 PM
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Thank you pagerow that was pretty funny!

Is Brownie available? He might do better than Ken.

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Whoops

The head of an Iranian government task force on the coronavirus who had urged the public not to overreact about its spread has tested positive for the illness himself, authorities said Tuesday, as new cases emanating from the country rapidly emerged across the Middle East.

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 02/25/2020 02:54 PM
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Hmmmm, , , , here in the USA and in most Euro countries and such, the health systems are in pretty good shape to deal with it. BUT, elsewhere in the BuFu world the current (rough) 2.7% death rate will probably expand and put a real hurt on certain places.

To have a little math fun:, , , ,

The world's population is 7,800,000,000. 40% of that is 3,120,000,000.

2.7% of 3,120,000,000 is, , , , , 84,240,000. !!!!

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    Cuccinelli was called "The Cooch" when he was in Virginia politics. The state is now controlled by Democrats. But that's for the Other Forum.
    The Coronavirus seems unlikely to be as bad as flu epidemics in the 1950s or 1960s. A lot of infections don't produce symptoms and most with symptoms are mild. The 1968 pandemic killed about 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US (1957 was a bit worse), but life went on pretty much as usual, to the extent that 1968 was a usual year with Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy killed, the weird Democratic Convention, riots, war, whatever.
    As of now, we in the US aren't under immediate threat. But the sudden outbreak in Italy shows how that can change fast. Travel from China and South Korea has been curtailed.
    Harvard's expert who is predicting worldwide spread is Michael Mina.
    A friend in Madagascar who saw what a single tourist with measles did to the country (4,000 dead children) is very worried about what Coronavirus might do in poor African countries.


Edited: 02/25/2020 at 05:05 PM by ww
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EDIT: Ooops! This is what happens when you sit up late doing taxes and then post. Considering that misteake (sic) was numeric, I guess I'd better go check the taxes too. Oh, and form 8889 instruction is finally available. Line 3 goes up $50, woot? Back to COVID19. The annual human death rate worldwide is about 1%, another 2%? Not nice certainly, but not exactly apocalyptic either. Compare to the annual birth rate which is about 2%.

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If this doesn't start the recession (the, not a...a correction has been coming) nothing will.

Also, human beings need a science trust level correction and this might do it. Tired of anti-vax BS.
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Originally posted by: ww

    Cuccinelli was called "The Cooch" when he was in Virginia politics. The state is now controlled by Democrats. But that's for the Other Forum.


    The Coronavirus seems unlikely to be as bad as flu epidemics in the 1950s or 1960s. A lot of infections don't produce symptoms and most with symptoms are mild. The 1968 pandemic killed about 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US (1957 was a bit worse), but life went on pretty much as usual, to the extent that 1968 was a usual year with Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy killed, the weird Democratic Convention, riots, war, whatever.


    As of now, we in the US aren't under immediate threat. But the sudden outbreak in Italy shows how that can change fast. Travel from China and South Korea has been curtailed.


    Harvard's expert who is predicting worldwide spread is Michael Mina.


    A friend in Madagascar who saw what a single tourist with measles did to the country (4,000 dead children) is very worried about what Coronavirus might do in poor African countries.


He likes to be called Hootchie Cootchie Cuccinelli.
 02/26/2020 05:53 PM
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Trump stuck pretty much to script but seemed a bit too optimistic. It seems China did a good job of catching coronavirus cases. News story on a report from WHO at Stat
 02/27/2020 04:22 AM
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It's already here - -
- - without travel or contact with a traveler.


CDC confirms first possible community transmission of coronavirus in US


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 02/27/2020 05:24 AM
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italy is on lock down now too according to a friend. apparently some people had coronavirus were at carnival north and traveled across entire country unaware. her university is shut down. japan closed all schools as well

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Clearly, the difficulty with this thing is its stealth.
 02/27/2020 07:04 AM
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Fatality rates

No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%.

No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases, and elevated among those with preexisting conditions: 10.5% for people with cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer.
 02/27/2020 08:20 AM
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not surprising given the severe cytokine storm it causes in compromised patients. resulting viral sepsis and severe pneumonia the killers
 02/27/2020 08:24 AM
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the age factor and mortality difference. basically non existent in children under 9. some are suspecting this is due to mitochondrial function. children in major growth cycles have highly functional mitochondria. as we age and get older function decreases over time, how much dependent on your health, lifestyle, and genetics. potential supplemental protection/therapy could perhaps be something to increase function

Edited: 02/27/2020 at 08:24 AM by RiddleMe
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Originally posted by: ww

Medpage Today has useful quotes from the CDC's expert. Winter Park member of Congress Stephanie Murphyalready convened a meeting of Orlando people--airport, tourism, medical, etc--to get started on preparation.



Yesssssssss - -
- - let's get started on preparagion.



It's already a crisis - -
- - in the news media !!



CVS and Walgreens have empty shelves of 3M masks - -
- - even Home Depot limiting quantities if available at all.

Both eBay and Amazon prices - -
- - have SURGED. Panic in America.


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coworker in california went grocery shopping and half the people in his store shopping were wearing masks already. yeah, panic has begun

Edited: 02/27/2020 at 08:51 AM by RiddleMe
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    There's no reason to wear a mask unless you think you're infected (cold, flu, whatever).
    But hospitals, schools, airports, public transit systems and such need to dust off their pandemic plans (which they should have) and be ready. Very much as if a really bad flu year is impending
. [bulletIThere hasn't been much testing for the virus in the US due to a very limited supply of test kits and what was a reasonable belief that there wouldn't be any cases to be found in people who hadn't been in contact with infected persons. Now, there's more test kits and obviously more need to test.
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