What's not helping is that even if we do anything, it's gonna take tons of fossil fuels to get china, india, and the rest of the other 3rd world countries OFF of fossil fuels. Discuss,

it's gonna take whatever it takes, no real choice here about doing it.
India faces disaster if we don't, China has plenty of coastal cities too.
Most of the pain will be faced by 3rd world nations.
Many have little fossil fuel industries or infrastructure.
They can start industrializing green.
All are committed to reducing emissions.
It's mostly US that've been dragging heels.




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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/15/2022 at 06:05 PM by WG

spewing the things you've witness change in the tiny amount of time you've been on earth

That's the problem. It is happening far faster than predicted.

You do understand there needs to be a reason for the warming, right? If it's not us, and the shit we spew, what is it?

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no way man, that could never happen. we are the "shining light on the hill"

It has zero to do with politics and everything to do with the billions of morons like you using Wiki as a source

How about the IPCC, NASA and the UN?

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add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway

What's' wrong with Wiki?
You see something inaccurate there?,
you FIX IT.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

The Wiki Summary:

Contemporary climate change includes both global warming and its impacts on Earth's weather patterns. There have been previous periods of climate change, but the current changes are distinctly more rapid and not due to natural causes.[2][3] Instead, they are caused by the emission of greenhouse gases, mostly carbon dioxide (CO2) and methane. Burning fossil fuels for energy production creates most of these emissions. Certain agricultural practices, industrial processes, and forest loss are additional sources.[4] Greenhouse gases are transparent to sunlight, allowing it through to heat the Earth's surface. When the Earth emits that heat as infrared radiation the gases absorb it, trapping the heat near the Earth's surface and causing global warming.

Due to climate change, deserts are expanding, while heat waves and wildfires are becoming more common.[5] Increased warming in the Arctic has contributed to melting permafrost, glacial retreat and sea ice loss.[6] Higher temperatures are also causing more intense storms, droughts, and other weather extremes.[7] Rapid environmental change in mountains, coral reefs, and the Arctic is forcing many species to relocate or become extinct.[8] Climate change threatens people with food and water scarcity, increased flooding, extreme heat, more disease, and economic loss. Human migration and conflict can be a result.[9] The World Health Organization (WHO) calls climate change the greatest threat to global health in the 21st century.[10] Even if efforts to minimise future warming are successful, some effects will continue for centuries. These include sea level rise, and warmer, more acidic oceans.[11]

Many of these impacts are already felt at the current 1.2 °C (2.2 °F) level of warming. Additional warming will increase these impacts and may trigger tipping points, such as the melting of the Greenland ice sheet.[12] Under the 2015 Paris Agreement, nations collectively agreed to keep warming "well under 2 °C". However, with pledges made under the Agreement, global warming would still reach about 2.7 °C (4.9 °F) by the end of the century.[13] Limiting warming to 1.5 °C will require halving emissions by 2030 and achieving net-zero emissions by 2050.[14]

Bobcat Fire in Monrovia, CA, September 10, 2020
Bleached colony of Acropora coral
A dry riverbed in California, which is experiencing its worst megadrought in 1,200 years.[15]
Some effects of climate change, clockwise from top left: Wildfire intensified by heat and drought, worsening droughts compromising water supplies, and bleaching of coral caused by ocean acidification and heating.
Making deep cuts in emissions will require switching away from burning fossil fuels and towards using electricity generated from low-carbon sources. This includes phasing out coal-fired power plants, vastly increasing use of wind, solar, and other types of renewable energy, and taking measures to reduce energy use. Electricity will need to replace fossil fuels for powering transportation, heating buildings, and operating industrial facilities.[16][17] Carbon can also be removed from the atmosphere, for instance by increasing forest cover and by farming with methods that capture carbon in soil.[18] While communities may adapt to climate change through efforts like better coastline protection, they cannot avert the risk of severe, widespread, and permanent impacts.[19]

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/18/2022 at 02:35 PM by WG

You do understand there needs to be a reason for the warming, right? If it's not us, and the shit we spew, what is it?



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I was right.

Based on analysis from NOAA's Global Monitoring Lab, global average atmospheric carbon dioxide was 414.72 parts per million in 2021, setting a new record high despite the continued economic drag from the COVID-19 pandemic.

Carbon dioxide measured at NOAA's Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory peaked for 2022 at 421 parts per million in May, pushing the atmosphere further into territory not seen for millions of years, scientists from NOAA and Scripps Institution of Oceanography

Undeniable data

An unprecedented extreme rate of change in the physical properties of the earth's atmosphere.