>>"The G-7 used to be the G-8," Trump began. "[Former U.S. President] Barack Obama and a person named Trudeau didn't want to have Russia in and I would say that that was a mistake because I think you wouldn't have a war right now if you had Russia in and you wouldn't have a war right now if Trump were president four years ago."<<

This is right after Trump was publicly humiliated by Putin, forced to wait an hour on a call, went to peace talks while bombing Kiev in the largest bombing of the war and just yesterday, Trump announced he would not order more sanctions because Europe wasn't doing it first.

Russia Russia Russia? Can someone who is sympathetic to Putin please explain how and why we would accommodate our enemy like this? Is the murdering Putin not our enemy? Did his unprovoked invasion of a democratic Ukraine and war crimes against civilians there not warrant retaliation against Putin and support for Ukraine? His entire history with Putin, going back to Helsinki, where he very publicly claimed to believe Putin right to his face instead of the entire lot of the U.S. intelligence agencies was just the beginning. Yelling at Zelensky in school yard bully attempt to make him give Russia whatever it wanted? Claiming to want to stop the bloodshed of war while being told Putin will pursue his neosoviet dreams with Russia's neighbors if they succeed in tbe Ukraine?

Where is the motivation here? Are these glaring examples of being compromised? Is Trump pursuing some fiscal policy of keeping us out of wars (notwithstanding claiming military operations where "all options are in the table" in Panama, Greenland and the newest 51st state)? Israel apparently has our support against Iran as this little war starts metastasizing. Money may be the answer but not from a guy that has golfed over 200 million dollars away from his previous and current term. He's not a guy who paid taxes often or shared those taxes despite his promises to do so. Also, if Trump wanted to save money, why add 3-5 TRILLION dollars to the deficit in some big beautiful bankruptcy scheme? Please indulge this curiosity. Why would Trump behave and speak like one of Putin's mistresses pretending to be mad but just waiting for a new purse whenever it's time to punish Putin?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Exactly. Why are maga pro Russia? How does this stance benefit the United States?

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I was right.

The man that was impeached for extorting Zalenski trying to get a frame job on his political rival is our president again and extorting Ukraine again. Quite embarrassing

Edited: 06/17/2025 at 11:06 AM by 3rdworldlover