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Created On: 06/18/2025 05:11 AM
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 06/18/2025 05:11 AM
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Cole

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The perade was a flop, so Trump changed the narrative by switching to Iran. The US won't get involved any more than we already are.

This clown is so tiresome.

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 06/18/2025 05:51 AM
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Cole

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I need to clarify. We won't get directly involved but the 'bunker busters' will somehow find their way to Israel, and the Israelis will somehow learn how to use them.

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 06/18/2025 06:08 AM
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Israel doesn't have a delivery system capable of hauling the 30,000 lb bombs.
Currently the GBU-57 MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator) can only be delivered with a B-2 Bomber which is only in the US fleet.

The other option is for Israel to execute a commando raid on the Fordo facility.
Since Israel has command of the sky and experience with raids that is a viable alternative.
It might yield better results as far as ensuring absolute destruction of the facility and confiscation of any materials they may have produced.

Using the GBU-57 isn't a one and done proposition.
It would take several strikes and unless there are people on the ground there isn't a certainty that the facilities have been destroyed.
So it might take a commando raid either way.

Personally, I would like to see Trump use his most excellent negotiating skills and keep the USA out of it.

Let's not forget that the Orange Cheesus himself set the stage for this shit show when in 2018 he withdrew from the JCPOA agreement with Iran.
It wasn't a perfect deal, but it was in effect and could have been negotiated to a better place if Trump actually had negotiating chops and not just the primal instincts of a toddler.
And posting on social media like a 13 year old girl doesn't count as negotiating.
So, he created this mess and now he wants to be a hero to save us from what he created.

That is how Trump rolls.





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Edited: 06/18/2025 at 06:13 AM by Bamboo
 06/18/2025 06:28 AM
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It wasn't a perfect deal, but it was in effect and could have been negotiated to a better place if Trump actually had negotiating chops and not just the primal instincts of a toddler.
Think that we are in a pretty strong negotiating position now.

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 06/18/2025 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

It wasn't a perfect deal, but it was in effect and could have been negotiated to a better place if Trump actually had negotiating chops and not just the primal instincts of a toddler.


Think that we are in a pretty strong negotiating position now.


War is a negotiating skill?



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 06/18/2025 07:46 AM
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Resorting to war actions is always a failure of talks and negotiations.

Sometime it is necessary, but two weeks ago the orange cheesus was saying how he was making a deal with Iran and how only he could do it, blah blah blah.
Then Israel didn't listen to trump's bleats to not attack and he saw they had success, and now he wants to get some of that even if he wasn't involved....so he is trying to elbow his way into this conflict.

Trump has abandoned any real and skillful negotiations, and is going to social media threats.




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 06/18/2025 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: tpapablo
It wasn't a perfect deal, but it was in effect and could have been negotiated to a better place if Trump actually had negotiating chops and not just the primal instincts of a toddler.
Think that we are in a pretty strong negotiating position now.
War is a negotiating skill?
Negotiating position, fool.

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 06/18/2025 09:07 AM
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We paleface? Isn't this Israel's mistake?

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 06/18/2025 10:24 AM
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3rdworldlover

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That's antisemitic
Get up against the wall!
 06/18/2025 10:58 AM
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RustyTruck

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Turns out trump is very easy for the zionists to manipulate, and Isreal would really prefer the US do all the work to eliminate Iran as a barrier to armed expansion and more ethnic cleansing.



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 06/19/2025 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: tpapablo



It wasn't a perfect deal, but it was in effect and could have been negotiated to a better place if Trump actually had negotiating chops and not just the primal instincts of a toddler.




Think that we are in a pretty strong negotiating position now.




War is a negotiating skill?


Negotiating position, fool.


I rest my case. lol



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 06/19/2025 11:08 AM
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Bamboo

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lol!

Orange Dust said he wants to wait two weeks before making a decision.

So fking typical, but in this case it is the right thing to do.

Let the Israelis go commando on Iran and put all that military aid and millions we give them each day to work.

Two weeks from now Trump will have forgotten all about it and be on to another cluster fk.

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 06/19/2025 12:01 PM
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It looks like Trump hasn't been briefed that everyone knows that when says two weeks, he means to claim that Greenland is his, the gulf of America is better than ever and all of our friends and saying what a great job he is doing. The rope a dope.

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 06/24/2025 02:48 PM
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Well, the Orange Cheesus certainly did change the narrative.

It is looking like we didn't obliterate their nuclear capabilities.
More like a set back of a few months.

If Israel really wanted this done right they should have done it themselves with commando raids.

The more Trump talks the more it is obvious he is winging it and doesn't really know what he is doing.

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 06/24/2025 03:17 PM
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nukeh2o

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Change the narrative
aka Lie, Spin, Distract
and then: change the subject.....genius!
aka: magat MO.

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 06/24/2025 04:12 PM
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Concepts of an attack.

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 06/25/2025 04:20 AM
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Cole

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I knew he was going to do it. It was in the script.

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 06/25/2025 05:56 AM
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Looks like the narrative du jour is shot to shit again:
>>"The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on the social media platform X. "Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration."<<

Those damn facts ruining a great story. Such a clear attempt to make Cheeto Jesus look bad. These are the kind of facts that the people who hate our country share.

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 06/25/2025 06:05 AM
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Cole

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Karoline Leavitt, what a scumbag.

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 06/25/2025 06:24 AM
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Why Karoline Leavitt is so annoying


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