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Topic Title: Is DOJ hiding facts and spreading false info?
Topic Summary: Why did they quietly delete their own study on perpetrators of domestic terrorism?
Created On: 09/17/2025 06:09 AM
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Bamboo

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Our greatest president and administration ever has been spreading false information (dare I say lies?) about what groups commit the majority of violent acts in the USA. When they figured out that what they were saying is wrong after CK's killing, they had the DOJ delete their own intensive and published study on the subject. But it still exists in the wayback machine.
Why would they do that?
Here is the link to where it was:
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

Here is the Wayback link showing the first page dated 11Sept2025:
https://archive.ph/cBfwR
You can read that the summary does not support Trump's statements about the radical left wing committing more violent acts.
It says: "The number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and violent extremism" and goes on to give some numbers.

In addition other studies have supported that fact.
Including this recent CATO study:
The right-wing think tank Cato Institute published its own report last week in the wake of Kirk's assassination, concluding that 3,599 people "have been murdered in politically motivated terrorist attacks in the United States from January 1, 1975, through September 10, 2025," with 83% of those deaths occurring during the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. But, the report continued, "right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total" during that time period, accounting for killings by "those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies."

"Left-wing terrorists murdered 65 people, or about 2 percent of the total," the Cato report continued. "Left-wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti-police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti-white ideologies, and other left-wing ideologies."

While the report emphasized that "politically motivated murder is very uncommon in the United States, it also examined the data excluding the enormity of the 9/11 attacks, noting "it may make sense to exclude them because they obscure other trends." In this dataset, right-wing murders jump to a 63% share of the deaths across the same period, compared to left-wing murders accounting for 10%.


Other articles about this:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/art...website-032537612.html
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/...nce-deleted-doj-report
https://newrepublic.com/post/2...-terrorists-right-wing
https://people.com/department-...ical-violence-11811580

Another example of Trump and his administration not liking the facts so they lie, deflect, and even try to delete the facts from history.

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Edited: 09/17/2025 at 06:14 AM by Bamboo
 09/17/2025 06:14 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Same reason they amplify every single instance of immigrant crime
Their ideology is dependent on misinformation
 09/17/2025 06:47 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover Same reason they amplify every single instance of immigrant crime Their ideology is dependent on misinformation
Yeah, conservatives lost all creditability after perpetrating the Russian collusion hoax, Hunter Biden laptop hoax, the covid hoaxes, the "hands up, don't shoot" hoax, the Dementia Joe economy is great hoax, and all of the rest. Very dependent on misinformation.

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 09/17/2025 06:54 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Couldn't agree more
 09/17/2025 08:15 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Amazing how team MAGA uses the same techniques and is always on the same page. Gee, what could it be that has divided the USA enough to enable an authoritarian takeover?

WASHINGTON (AP) - Russia moved to amplify online conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's killing just hours after it happened, seeding social media with the frightening claim that America is slipping into civil war.
Chinese and pro-Iranian groups also spread disinformation about the shooting, with those loyal to Iran's interests backing antisemitic conspiracy theories while bots linked to Beijing claimed that Kirk's death shows that the United States is violent, polarized and dysfunctional.
America's adversaries have long used fake social media accounts, online bots and disinformation to depict the U.S. as a dangerous country beset with extremism and gun violence. Kirk's killing has provided another opportunity for those overseas eager to shape public understanding while inflaming political polarization.
"Charlie Kirk's Death and the Coming Civil War," tweeted Russian ultranationalist Alexander Dugin, whose influence earned him the moniker " Putin's brain," referring to Russia's president. Pro-Russian bots blamed Democrats and predicted more violence. Russian state media published English-language articles with headlines claiming a conspiracy orchestrated by shadowy forces: "Was Charlie Kirk's Killer a Pro?"
 09/17/2025 08:31 AM
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tom

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"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." Orwell, 1984.

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 09/17/2025 09:35 AM
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"the Russian collusion hoax, Hunter Biden laptop hoax, the covid hoaxes, the "hands up, don't shoot" hoax, the Dementia Joe economy is great hoax, and all of the rest. I'm very dependent on misinformation."
Here a hoax, there a hoax
Everywhere a HOAX HOAX!
Lame mcpiggy had a coop
and in this pen he lives with swine...
what's that smell

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