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Topic Title: Proof that California is just different.
Topic Summary: Big pharma 0, CalRX 1
Created On: 10/16/2025 05:54 AM
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 10/16/2025 05:54 AM
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johnnyboy

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http://www.politico.com/news/2...&utm_source=flipboard

>> SACRAMENTO, California - California will start selling low-cost insulin in January, becoming the first state in the nation to bypass Big Pharma with its own supply of the expensive diabetes drug and marking a notable win in Gov. Gavin Newsom's push to rein in health care costs with state-branded drugs.
The insulin pens will be supplied through the CalRx program, an initiative launched under Newsom in which the state contracts with manufacturers to produce generic pharmaceuticals. The pens, which people with diabetes use to control the level of insulin in their bodies, will be the same as other long-acting insulin on the market. They will come with a suggested price for consumers of no more than $55 for a pack of five - a significant discount from current prices...<<

This is, in my opinion, the highest and best use of government, preventing a global monopoly to gauge patients without consequence or conscience. I wonder how much money they tried to offer Newsom to look the other way? How much would they have contributed to his presidential campaign?

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 10/16/2025 06:20 AM
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tom

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What?!? CalRx beating TrumpRx to the punch???

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 10/16/2025 06:37 AM
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johnnyboy

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I forgot about Trumps signature prescription policy. It's the same except it doesn't do anything, it relies upon one company to discount a few drugs and parades as progress.

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 10/16/2025 03:21 PM
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Cole

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It will be nice to have an intelligent president again.

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 10/16/2025 03:33 PM
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tpapablo

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You should be honored, JB. I only get a few posts before I am thrown out of here again and I am choosing your post to respond to. Yes, Ca. is different. There is definitely a reason why people and companies are fleeing from the place to normal places. I am sure this will give those folks on the fence another reason to do so. This might or might not work out well for those with diabetes but it won't for Ca. taxpayers. Do you know why there aren't boatloads of generic insulin around now despite the patents begining to expire over a decade ago? Of course you don't. Turns out that insulin is a biologic and it is complicated and expensive to copy and produce a biologic. It costs almost the same amount to produce a generic (or, to be accurate, a biosimilar) insulin as what it costs the big boys that are selling insulin now. So, no profit motive to make a biosimilar version. Sure, there are some startups trying to come up with cheaper insulin, but they have not done it yet. Moreover, prices have dropped about 50% in the last 5 years. In other words, JB, this is typical Newsom propaganda, which will cost Californians a pretty penny.

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 10/16/2025 03:46 PM
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Cole

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Blah, blah, blah.

California has the 4th largest economy in the world. They also send more money back to the federal government than all Red states combined.

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Edited: 10/16/2025 at 03:47 PM by Cole
 10/16/2025 05:11 PM
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Biosimilars are one of the largest reasons insulin prices have dropped in the last few years. Here's the Blue Cross / Blue Shield announcement of the upcoming $55 price capped biosimilar. https://www.bcbs.com/news-and-...-of-lower-cost-insulin

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 10/16/2025 06:02 PM
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johnnyboy

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Well Tpap, you can wrong anywhere. It looks like you are wrong here. I should be flattered.

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 10/16/2025 07:12 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Good thing 'die uh beet us' ain't no red state problem.

 10/16/2025 07:18 PM
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fishkller

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

I only get a few posts before I am thrown out of here again and I am choosing your post to respond to.


That's the excuse you're going with Chicken Wrongz?

Damn, even I thought you had a least a vertebrae or two.

Guess they developed into feathers.

More than just sad, man.. cringey sad.



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 10/17/2025 06:42 AM
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johnnyboy

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A persecution complex comes with the territory when you are wrong all the time.

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 10/17/2025 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by: tom Biosimilars are one of the largest reasons insulin prices have dropped in the last few years. Here's the Blue Cross / Blue Shield announcement of the upcoming $55 price capped biosimilar. https://www.bcbs.com/news-and-...-of-lower-cost-insulin
No, the lower prices are primarily the result of big pharma releasing generics at a lower price. Your link proves my point, however. This is a stupid move by Newsom and is merely propaganda. If someone can produce insulin at a lower price, they will, regardless of what California does.

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