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RustyTruck

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Because we helped devastate their countries to increase our wealth.

http://thegrayzone.com/2019/07...anniversary-us/


The Grayzone's Anya Parampil sat down for an exclusive interview with Honduran President Manuel Zelaya, on the 10th anniversary of the US-backed right-wing military coup that overthrew him.
He discusses the extreme violence, drug trafficking, economic depression, migration crisis, Juan Orlando Hernández (JOH), WikiLeaks, Venezuela, and more.

That has been a sacrifice for the Honduran people, because the side that took power had the support of the United States. The US is the major beneficiary of the coup. And there is a principle in penal law that says the beneficiary of a crime is the principal suspect.

How has it been the beneficiary? The US has almost complete control over Honduras. Control over justice through the OAS (Organization of American States). It controls security through US Southern Command. It controls the economy through the International Monetary Fund (IMF), World Bank, and IDB (Inter-American Development Bank).

It controls the main media networks in Honduras; it has a big influence over the opinion of the main media outlets. It funds many churches, which receive donations from North American NGOs. And it finances Honduran NGOs. That is, it controls public opinion. It controls the powers of the state.

And in this way, it has a high interference in the decisions of states like Honduras, poor states, weak states, where their rulers, to receive protection, give up everything to the North Americans.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

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 07/12/2019 05:58 PM
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Wiki-Pedia:.......................... United States role................................................................ In 2015 and 2016, emails by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were released subsequent to disputes over the Secretary's use of private email accounts for government communications. Some critics, who are not named in this article, have argued that, despite President Obama's public support for Zelaya and condemnation of the coup, these communications suggest that the Secretary seemed more interested in ensuring that previously scheduled elections for the new president proceeded in November, rather than taking a strong stand insisting that Zelaya be restored in the meantime. And Zelaya himself has criticized both Clinton and the Obama administration saying, "On the one hand, they condemned the coup, but on the other hand, they were negotiating with the leaders of the coup.

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 07/12/2019 06:49 PM
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nukeh2o

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Originally posted by: somebodyelse

Wiki-Pedia:.......................... United States role................................................................

In 2015 and 2016, emails by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were released subsequent to disputes over the Secretary's use of private email accounts for government communications. Some critics, who are not named in this article, have argued that, despite President Obama's public support for Zelaya and condemnation of the coup, these communications suggest that the Secretary seemed more interested in ensuring that previously scheduled elections for the new president proceeded in November, rather than taking a strong stand insisting that Zelaya be restored in the meantime. And Zelaya himself has criticized both Clinton and the Obama administration saying, "On the one hand, they condemned the coup, but on the other hand, they were negotiating with the leaders of the coup.

Yahbut yahbut doggie doo, there macedonian sheep sodomist boy ......
why don't they just go back to their countries....ummmm...
because any male child who doesn't join a drug gang will die...
Now of course: their daughters could just work for Epstein and your messianic orange pedo predator in chief as an underage sex worker.....
"but donald: you ARE a sexual predator!"




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 07/12/2019 07:08 PM
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fishkller

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Originally posted by: somebodyelse

Wiki-Pedia:.......................... United States role................................................................

In 2015 and 2016, emails by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were released subsequent to disputes over the Secretary's use of private email accounts for government communications. Some critics, who are not named in this article, have argued that, despite President Obama's public support for Zelaya and condemnation of the coup, these communications suggest that the Secretary seemed more interested in ensuring that previously scheduled elections for the new president proceeded in November, rather than taking a strong stand insisting that Zelaya be restored in the meantime. And Zelaya himself has criticized both Clinton and the Obama administration saying, "On the one hand, they condemned the coup, but on the other hand, they were negotiating with the leaders of the coup.





Dude, if you want people to actually read your posts and not simply scroll past them- you need to do at least the bare minimum and format them properly.

Nobody is going to read a rambling Jack-Kerouac-On-The-Road style endless run-on sentence with no line break or paragraphs.

D-

Go back and format your content, or replace the broken "Enter" key on your keyboard.

Until then, your screen name reads more like "ScrollPast"

LOL






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 07/12/2019 07:39 PM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: fishkller

Originally posted by: somebodyelse



Wiki-Pedia:.......................... United States role................................................................



In 2015 and 2016, emails by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were released subsequent to disputes over the Secretary's use of private email accounts for government communications. Some critics, who are not named in this article, have argued that, despite President Obama's public support for Zelaya and condemnation of the coup, these communications suggest that the Secretary seemed more interested in ensuring that previously scheduled elections for the new president proceeded in November, rather than taking a strong stand insisting that Zelaya be restored in the meantime. And Zelaya himself has criticized both Clinton and the Obama administration saying, "On the one hand, they condemned the coup, but on the other hand, they were negotiating with the leaders of the coup.










Dude, if you want people to actually read your posts and not simply scroll past them- you need to do at least the bare minimum and format them properly.



Nobody is going to read a rambling Jack-Kerouac-On-The-Road style endless run-on sentence with no line break or paragraphs.



D-



Go back and format your content, or replace the broken "Enter" key on your keyboard.



Until then, your screen name reads more like "ScrollPast"



LOL









Ah, but his point is quite correct. Obama/Clinton liberals are no less to blame than republicans, probably more so. They are part of the same wealthy capitalist elite that devastates Latin America to benefit the North American oligarchy.

My point is that the deadly situation that sends people North is squarely on us, and we have a moral obligation to treat these refugees humanly.

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 07/12/2019 07:50 PM
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Well of course.. obviously

but tell that to some folks and ... LOL

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 07/13/2019 06:04 AM
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Cole

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What was the funding from Clinton and Obama compared to that of Trump?

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