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fishkller

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On Sunday morning, President Donald Trump announced that ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had died as a result of a US raid in northern Syria. And then he kept talking. And taking questions. And more questions.
I went through the transcript of Trump's remarks and pulled out the most, uh, notable lines.







1. "He died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way."
Trump
is very interested in painting a specific picture of Baghdadi for the
public -- of a cowardly fake tough guy. His detailed description of how
Baghdadi met his end is a direct contrast to the light-on-details
presentation by President Barack Obama when announcing the death of
Osama bin Laden in 2011.
2.
"The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments
in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the American
forces bearing down on him."
Like
I said, Trump is very interested in you knowing the gritty details --
with the primary aim of casting Baghdadi as a fearful wimp in his last
moments.
3. "As you know,
last month we announced that we recently killed Hamza bin Laden, the
very violent son of Osama bin Laden, who was saying very bad things
about people, about our country, about the world."
"Saying very bad things about people."
4.
"Baghdadi has been on the run for many years, long before I took
office. But at my direction, as commander-in-chief of the United States,
we obliterated his caliphate 100% in March of this year."
It's not at all clear that 100% of the ISIS caliphate has been defeated -- or if that is even possible or what it would look like.
5. "Baghdadi was vicious and violent. And he died in a vicious and violent way, as a coward, running and crying."
Again, Trump is making very sure you know that the world knows that Baghdadi was no hero -- far from it.
6. "He died like a dog. He died like a coward."
So, yeah.
7.
"I don't want to say how, but we had absolutely perfect -- as though
you were watching a movie. It was -- that -- that in -- the technology
there alone is -- is really great."
"As though you were watching a movie."
8. "Russia treated us great. They opened up. We had a fly over certain Russia areas, Russia-held areas. Russia was great."
[Vladimir Putin nods, smiles]
9.
"Turkey -- we dealt with them. They knew we were going in. We flew over
some territory. They were terrific. No problem. They were not problem."
Good job, Turkey. Thanks for letting us fly "over some territory!"
10. "We flew very, very low and very, very fast."
11. "They had the gunfire terminated immediately, meaning they were shot from the air ships."
Shot from the air ships, you say? Is that a technical term?
12.
"And we would kill terrorist leaders but they were names I never heard
of, they were names that weren't recognizable and they weren't the big
names. Some good ones, some important ones, but they weren't the big
names."
When killing
terrorists, you always have to go for the big names. Also: Sort of weird
that the President admits he didn't know the names of some of the
terrorists the US has killed under his watch, no?
13. "You know, they use the internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump."
So, ISIS uses the Internet better than everyone except Donald Trump? OK, got it! Totally normal stuff here!
14.
"And what they've done with the internet through recruiting and
everything -- and that's why he died like a dog, he died like a coward.
He was whimpering, screaming and crying."
These
sentences are not edited at all. This is exactly what Trump said and in
this order. Why did he switch from talking about the Internet to
talking about, again, how Baghdadi died? (It was like a dog and a
coward, FYI.) I have no idea.
15. "He didn't die a hero. He died a coward: crying, whimpering, screaming and bringing three kids with him to die."
OK, got it.
16. "I've been looking for him for three years. I've been looking for him."
"I've."
17.
"We were going to notify them last night, but we decided not to do that
because Washington leaks like I've never seen before."
This is big news. Usually in major operations like this one, the administration would alert top congressional leaders of both parties. Trump chose not to do that.
"The House must be briefed on this raid, which the Russians but not top
Congressional Leadership were notified of in advance, and on the
Administration's overall strategy in the region," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (California) said in a statement.
18.
"This is the biggest one perhaps that we've ever captured, because this
is the one that built ISIS and beyond, and was looking to rebuild it
again."
Even when it comes
to capturing or killing terrorists, Trump has to be the biggest and the
best. "The biggest one perhaps that we've ever captured."
19.
"That was to notify you guys that you have something big this morning,
so you wouldn't be out playing golf or tennis or otherwise being
indisposed."
This is Trump's defense of his "Something very big has just happened!" tweet at 9:23 p.m., Eastern time on Saturday night. Worth noting: Trump plays golf at least once virtually every weekend.
20.
"The Kurds have worked along incredibly with us, but, in all fairness,
it was much easier dealing with the Kurds after they went through three
days of fighting, because that was a brutal three days."
You
mean when Turkey invaded northern Syria and started slaughtering Kurds?
Yeah, that seems like it was a "brutal three days." For sure.
21.
"Now, Russia likes us being there for two reasons, because we kill
ISIS. We kill terrorists. And they're very close to Russia."
In summary: Russia likes us because they hate ISIS. And we kill terrorists. Any questions?
22.
"Now, maybe they can get here, but we have done very well with homeland
security and the ban, which, by the way, is approved by the United
States Supreme Court, as you know."
Wait, so we are talking about the Muslim travel ban now? Why? How?
23.
"But it's many thousands of miles away, whereas Russia is right there.
Turkey is right there. Syria is there. They're all right there."
So, the United States is geographically further from Syria and Turkey than Russia? [Consults map] Yeah, this checks out.
24. "Excuse me. Iran is right there. Iraq is right there. They all hate ISIS."
Are we doing the thing where we name countries? Lichtenstein! San Marino!
25.
"The European nations have been a tremendous disappointment, because I
personally called, but my people called a lot, take your ISIS fighters.
And they didn't want them."
Just a reminder: This is still Trump's "statement" on the death of Baghdadi. In case you forgot.
26. "They can't walk to our country. We have lots of water in between our country and them."
"This is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water." -- Donald Trump, on Puerto Rico
27.
"If you read about the history of Donald Trump, I was a civilian. I had
absolutely nothing to do with going into Iraq and I was totally against
it."
First off, great third-person here by Trump. Second, he was not "totally against" the war in Iraq.
28.
"Our K9, as they call -- I call it a dog, a beautiful dog, a talented
dog -- was injured and brought back, but we had no soldier injured."
A "dog," you say? Can't say I'm familiar with the word.
29. "By the time those things went off, they had a beautiful big hole and they ran in and they got everybody by surprise."
The US troops blew a "beautiful big hole" in the area where Baghdadi was staying. And yes, Trump uses the word "beautiful" to describe all sorts of odd things.
30.
"And as I said, they brought body parts back with them, et cetera, et
cetera. There wasn't much left. The vest blew up, but there are still
substantial pieces that they brought back."
Whole lotta detail here.
31.
"Osama bin Laden was very big, but Osama bin Laden became big with the
World Trade Center. This is a man who built a whole, as he would like to
call it, a country, a caliphate, and was trying to do it again."
Again,
Trump's obsession with being the biggest and the best is on full
display here. People might think bin Laden was the biggest but it was
actually Baghdadi!
32.
"When we use our intelligence correctly, what we can do is incredible.
When we waste our time with intelligence that hurts our country, because
we had poor leadership at the top, that's not good."
In which the President takes a(nother) shot at the intelligence community during a statement on the death of an ISIS terrorist.
33.
"And it's really a deserving name, intelligence. I have dealt with some
people that aren't very intelligent having to do with intel. But this
is the top people."
No words.
34. "There's a lot of Syrian people with lots of guns."
Uh, OK. So, uh, well, OK.
35. "But he was screaming, crying and whimpering. And he was scared out of his mind."
Again, for the people in the back.
36.
"And then I also wanted Hamza bin Laden, because he's a young man,
around 30, looks just like his father, tall, very handsome, and he was
talking bad things just like his father."
On the one hand: Tall and handsome. On the other: Saying bad things.
37.
"I wrote a book. A really very successful book. And in that book, about
a year before the World Trade Center was blown up, I said there's
somebody named Osama bin Laden, you better kill him or take him out,
something to that effect, he's big trouble."
It will stun you to learn that this, in fact, is not true, as CNN's Daniel Dale noted in this fact check.
38. "And I'm writing a book. I think I wrote 12 books, all did very well."
... Said the President of the United States in a press conference announcing the death of an ISIS leader.
39. "And I'm saying to people, take out Osama bin Laden, that nobody ever heard of."
Trump's claim that no one had ever heard of bin Laden before September 11, 2001 is simply false.
40. "We had nobody even hurt. That's why the dog was so great."
Big dog energy.
41. "He was an animal. And he was a gutless animal."
This feels like as good a place as any to end.


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When America was "great"

Edited: 10/27/2019 at 08:05 PM by fishkller
 10/28/2019 07:51 AM
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johnnyboy

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And 13 year old boys who have been bullied around the world all give that knowing smile with the feeling that the President's words on this are awesome as shit.

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 10/28/2019 07:54 AM
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Greensleeves

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thank you for posting this as I have generally refrained from listening to this madman

if someone is impressed by this dolt they need to listen to some better orators

Orators better than twitler:

Socrates
MLK
JFK
Obama
Snagglepuss
Foghorn Leghorn
Snarf
Most third graders





 10/28/2019 09:40 AM
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damonsharp

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I've taken violent shits after a two pitcher and an hombre night at Taco City that communicate with more class that this sorry excuse for a "leader".
Heck, what I left in the bowl would be a better president.
 10/28/2019 10:40 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: damonsharp

I've taken violent shits after a two pitcher and an hombre night at Taco City that communicate with more class that this sorry excuse for a "leader".

Heck, what I left in the bowl would be a better president.


Spoken like a true USA hating commie prog demoshit!

Traitor!

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 10/28/2019 11:22 AM
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Nah Fish Killer. I love my country, therefore I despise the unindicted co-conspirator currently occupying our White House and shaming our nation. All true patriots do, in fact.
 10/28/2019 11:24 AM
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johnnyboy

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Lyinfishbot posts like a coward.

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 10/28/2019 12:10 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: damonsharp

Nah Fish Killer. I love my country,


Hell no you dont!

LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 10/28/2019 12:11 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Lyinfishbot posts like a coward.


johnnygirl posts like a lying POS commie USA hating prog demoshit!

Oh wait...he IS one of those!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/28/2019 at 12:11 PM by Fish Killer
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 10/28/2019 12:25 PM
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Fish Killer

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 10/28/2019 12:27 PM
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johnnyboy

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I guess lyinfishbot continues his internet acting out. What would you do if you couldn't get on here and call people liars, disparage their patriotism and phelate trump?

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except that he is no longer anonymous ......



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Fish Killer

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....only a moron that wasn't here years ago would make a seriously STUPID comment like that!

I haven't been anonymous on here for a DECADE!

...but go ahead and try to post my private information.....you wont like what happens next.

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Putin digs the idiot in chief that is quite obvious. Look at the photos on this thread, Obama is saying get your commie hand off me. twitler is giggling in giddy happiness over being next to his crush
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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
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Cole

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Hey look, FK, aka Dirty Donkey Balls, is back to his usual lying bullshit.

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