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Topic Title: Ukrainian Oligarch Seethed About 'Overlord' Biden for Years
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 10/28/2019 06:05 AM
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dingpatch

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Lots of good "details" but, I have not yet read the whole article.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukr...d-biden-081325677.html

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 10/28/2019 06:26 AM
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scombrid

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Interesting to read that in parallel to the Pravda opinion piece.

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 10/28/2019 07:54 AM
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Seriously, Ding, you have to consider that these Russian puff pieces have to be disseminated through sources that don't show their Russian fingerprints, but shouldn't you be a little bit suspicious about stories on Yahoo that began as stories on Pravda?

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 10/28/2019 08:48 AM
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dingpatch

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Ummm, , , , , ahhhh, , , , it is not "Yahoo", I would consider "The Daily Beast" to be pretty "middle of the road. in regard to its opinions and reporting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/...den-for-years?ref=home

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 10/28/2019 08:51 AM
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dingpatch

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Who is Dmytro Firtash

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 10/28/2019 08:57 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy Seriously, Ding, you have to consider that these Russian puff pieces have to be disseminated through sources that don't show their Russian fingerprints, but shouldn't you be a little bit suspicious about stories on Yahoo that began as stories on Pravda?
This story on yahoo gives background as to why Pravda and Trump are doing what they are doing re Biden. USA with VP Biden as point was putting the hurting on Yanukovych and corrupt Ukraine gas oligarchs that were playing footsie with Gazprom/Pootie. Parnas and Fruman were bankrolled by pro-pootie gas man Firtash. It is all about the oil/gas as usual and is seems that Trump is siding with pro-pootie oligarchs who are mad that the US stepped on their sweetheart deals in 2014 2015 era.

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 10/28/2019 09:10 AM
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Greensleeves

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There you go. Biden was working anti corruption activities (with possible kick backs of course) that it's hard for twitler to spin otherwise. The right is trying but only the twitler supporters to dumb to know any better are convinced.
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