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dingpatch

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Coronavirus cases and deaths keep rising, and it all has not really even began!!

Now, it is confirmed that it is contagious even before symptoms show!!

In another week-or-two this could blow up to be a REALLY BIG FUCKING DEAL!!

It could and otherwise should be a focus of the Media. The Democratic Primaries will only be mentioned notationally on page 2.

"Global concerns grow as China virus spreads"

"China Deaths Jump as Measures Fail to Slow Spread of Virus"

"China virus fear sends markets into global slide"

"Theoretical Coronavirus Simulation Predicted 65 million deaths in Uncontrolled Outbreak"



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 01/27/2020 05:17 AM
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Set to peak in April with 150,000 cases a day in just one Chinese city. But that's the worst case scenario.

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 01/27/2020 05:25 AM
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Current numbers (as reported) are meaningless; still too early to tell. But, the current mortality "rate" is a very rough 3%!

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Put on your paranoid conspiracy hats, and fasten your unverified-sources seatbelt, but this was "out there" yesterday:

Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?
 01/27/2020 06:14 AM
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Rusty, , , , , Hmmmmmmm, , , , , Interesting, , , , , , But!

Did they "weaponize" it for use against their own economy? IF all this gets bad enough, it could put China back to being a "Second World" country!!! World Markets "could" be singing the song by the end of this week.

Buy your face masks while you still can!! I've got a decent enough supply from the VA because of my current immune deficiencies.

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Trump weaponized it to try to distract from his public shame..

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 01/27/2020 06:42 AM
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dingpatch

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fishkller chimes in with some faux "gallows humor" !!??

Millions could die.

"Anxiety is growing amid evidence that the disease has an incubation period of as long as two weeks before those infected start to show signs of the illness. That raises the possibility that people who are carrying the virus but don't show symptoms could infect others.

"The virus can be contagious during the incubation period, which is about 10 days, with the shortest being one day and longest being 14 days," Ma Xiaowei, Minister of National Health Commission, told a press conference on Sunday. "This is very different from SARS."

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Since this could go in NPNR I'll respond.

I would say the outlook right now is not easy to predict, but, like anything, something to keep an eye on.

Here's the CDC's page. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Current numbers (as reported) are meaningless; still too early to tell. But, the current mortality "rate" is a very rough 3%!


Source?

I read that the SARS CoV was 10% but 2019-nCoV was not yet determined.

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 01/27/2020 07:49 AM
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Source? Just simple math right now: deaths divided by cases = death rate

But, and, we are limited by realtime, factual, information. The Chinese Government has a very toxic relationship with "information".

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Astute observation ding: "The Chinese Government has a very toxic relationship with "information".

Similarities to the current disgusting figure head of the GOP?
 01/27/2020 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Source? Just simple math right now: deaths divided by cases = death rate



But, and, we are limited by realtime, factual, information. The Chinese Government has a very toxic relationship with "information".


Simple math? The numbers are too dynamic right now for anything accurate, so you're doing rectal math.



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Originally posted by: dingpatch

fishkller chimes in with some faux "gallows humor" !!??"



Eh, no.

Dingpatch was actually the first one to chime in with the alarmist "it was weaponized" fake news:


Originally posted by: dingpatch
Did they "weaponize" it for use against their own economy? IF all this gets bad enough, it could put China back to being a "Second World" country!!! World Markets "could" be singing the song by the end of this week.

Buy your face masks while you still can!!



I merely gave it a Trumpian spin as a comment on how silly that kind of talk is..







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It couldn't be the case that a website called "MarketWatch" might have an interest in promoting a story that could have a negative effect on stock values in order to generate a buying opportunity for capitalists could it? I mean no one is that shitty, right?

"Toner told Business insider during an interview that he hasn't completed research on the current strain of the Wuhan coronavirus, known as 2019-nCoV, but said that the death toll could run in the millions if the influenza were resistant to modern vaccines and was as easy to catch as the common flu.

Read: This is how far and fast the coronavirus has spread through U.S. stocks"

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 01/28/2020 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: dingpatch Source? Just simple math right now: deaths divided by cases = death rate But, and, we are limited by realtime, factual, information. The Chinese Government has a very toxic relationship with "information".
Simple math? The numbers are too dynamic right now for anything accurate, so you're doing rectal math.
Just another "feature" the dingpatch provides!
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I don't have any problem with his credentials, but I question the reporting of his speculation on hypotheticals (...if the new CoV was resistant and as contagious as the "common" flu..) - those are some mighty serious IF's.

It's a bit premature to start talking about death toll in the millions, isn't it? Only yesterday you suggested the "death rate" was 3%.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck I don't have any problem with his credentials, but I question the reporting of his speculation on hypotheticals (...if the new CoV was resistant and as contagious as the "common" flu..) - those are some mighty serious IF's. It's a bit premature to start talking about death toll in the millions, isn't it? Only yesterday you suggested the "death rate" was 3%.
Is it? You yahoos are quick to cite the death tolls from global warming.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: RustyTruck
It's a bit premature to start talking about death toll in the millions, isn't it? Only yesterday you suggested the "death rate" was 3%.


Is it? You yahoos are quick to cite the death tolls from global warming.


Yes; and I don't recall citing any projected death tolls from global warming, just that it will be catastrophic by all accounts.



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