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Topic Title: Roger Stone may not need that Pardon....
Topic Summary: If he never goes to jail.
Created On: 02/12/2020 08:27 AM
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 02/12/2020 08:27 AM
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johnnyboy

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The fix is in. The Prosecutors have proven their case, the jury has convicted him and he was set for sentencing. Then Trump sent Barr to "revise" the DOJ's position, completely back off of their original recommendation and "take charge" of the sentencing. The prosecutors who tried the case removed their names and themselves from the case in protest and now it appears that the entire matter will be within the presiding Judge's discretion despite the new and improved sentencing recommendation from Barr. This is rank, naked corruption all the while Trump tweets out about it in real time saying that the real criminals got away with their crimes and poor rat fucker Stone is being treated far too harshly. Its a giant whataboutism from Trump, who believes everyone is criminal and the only reason people ever get prosecuted is because they have bad politics.

http://www.npr.org/2020/02/12/...ge-of-roger-stone-case

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Edited: 02/12/2020 at 08:28 AM by johnnyboy
 02/12/2020 08:35 AM
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RustyTruck

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Boss Hogg just told Roscoe to turn them Duke boys loose.

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 02/12/2020 08:43 AM
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Sniper

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I'm no fan of Roger Stone but if you are going to put him away for 9 years, when he has no prior record, for lying, then everyone needs to be held to the same standard. If that is the standards we are holding people to then Bill Clinton, Comey, and McCabe are just a few of the people who need to be locked up. You can't just give someone an insanely heavy-handed sentence because you have a throbbing hard-on for Trump and anyone he is associated with, if you aren't ready to hold everyone to the same standard.
 02/12/2020 08:51 AM
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sandi

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well, I don't think the chosen one broke any laws. and so what if he did?
 02/12/2020 08:54 AM
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He was found guilty of witness tampering and obstruction, in addition to five instances of lying to Congress.
 02/12/2020 09:13 AM
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sandi

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

He was found guilty of witness tampering and obstruction, in addition to five instances of lying to Congress.


Yes, and he has friends in high places...

Welcome to America.
 02/12/2020 11:09 AM
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HAPDigital

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Two problems with this scenario:

1. DOJ Inspector General
2. The judge
 02/12/2020 12:41 PM
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If that is the standards we are holding people to then Bill Clinton, Comey, and McCabe
sniper

Please list the crimes they were tried and convicted of? Ok rhetorical question. Just list the crimes and or misdemeanors they were indicted on?

What no? Why didn't you list Mrs Clinton? Or is it what you trump dick suckers say: Fuck Law and Order.

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 02/12/2020 08:51 PM
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johnnyboy

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The "lock her up crowd" didn't seem to care that Hillary was never charged with a crime, presumed innocent and didn't invoke her right to remain silent. Stone has been found guilty of lying to Congress and witness tampering. The judge might agree the rat fucker should do less than 9 years but maybe not. He's thumbed his nose at the process the entire time until the end, when he went from arrogant above the law asshole to begging little bitch as the theatrics and antics failed him.


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 02/13/2020 03:52 AM
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Cole

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They followed the established sentencing guidelines. If this was Rosie O'Donnell, you wouldn't say beep.

There once was a time when lying to the government mattered. Hell, there once was a time when the Constitution mattered.
 02/13/2020 04:42 AM
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johnnyboy

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Ted Cruz should have quite a bit to say, but that spineless sackless marionette won't say it.

http://www.mediamatters.org/ro...ther-was-involved-jfks

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 02/13/2020 06:33 AM
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tpapablo

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Think you might be right, JB. Looks like he should get a new trial. Appears that there were some serious jury issues.

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 02/14/2020 04:17 AM
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johnnyboy

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Barr is creating drama to cover corruption. Even his statement is acknowledgement that he cannot undercut his staff for political reasons if trump brings attention to it. Barr is the legal means to trumps baser instincts.

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 02/14/2020 05:22 AM
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Cole

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Barr, "We did this before Trump tweeted!"

People with common sense, "Didn't your people come up with the original sentencing suggestions?"

Barr, "Ummmmm..."
 02/14/2020 06:58 AM
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johnnyboy

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Trump was looking for corruption in Ukraine. Republicans believe that. Now he corrupts the AG. Republicans are burying their heads in trumps lap and thinking he learned a lesson.

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 02/15/2020 12:09 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

They followed the established sentencing guidelines. If this was Rosie O'Donnell, you wouldn't say beep.
There once was a time when lying to the government mattered. Hell, there once was a time when the Constitution mattered.


Did they follow the sentencing guidelines with McCabe?

Oh wait...they didn't charge his ass for LYING TO CONGRESS!

Why exactly is that?!?!

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 02/15/2020 04:23 PM
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HAPDigital

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They charged Flynn with lying for a plea deal, a reduced crime. He was up against other more serious charges and got the plea deal in return. This is why he will still go to jail no matter whAt anyone says, even Barr. His goose is cooked.
 02/15/2020 06:57 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

They charged Flynn with lying for a plea deal, a reduced crime. He was up against other more serious charges and got the plea deal in return. This is why he will still go to jail no matter whAt anyone says, even Barr. His goose is cooked.


...yeah...and by your account so was Trumps!

MORON!

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 02/16/2020 07:12 PM
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johnnyboy

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Over a thousand former DOJ employees demand Barr's resignation today.

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 02/16/2020 07:29 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Over a thousand former DOJ employees demand Barr's resignation today.


'former'!

Key word...

ASSHOLE!

FIRED!

...and ALL demoshits!

FOOL!

OH...when is McCabe going to be jailed for LYING to Congress?

You know...just like the several OTHER people who did exactly what he did.....that you want jailed?!?!

Hypocrite asshole!



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Edited: 02/16/2020 at 07:44 PM by Fish Killer
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