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Topic Summary: 3.8 billion taken from the military
Created On: 02/13/2020 05:07 PM
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 02/13/2020 05:07 PM
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RustyTruck

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"WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon on Thursday slashed billions of dollars in funding for 17 Navy and Air Force aircraft and other military programs to free up money for the construction of President Donald Trump's long-sought U.S.-Mexico border wall, angering not just Democrats but also GOP defense hawks.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper approved the $3.8 billion border wall request from the Department of Homeland Security, and the Pentagon acknowledged that more cuts could be coming to provide additional funding for Trump's signature campaign promise."

Dat wall doh! Who's going to pay for it? You and the military.

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Tough call, but in the end, our security is best served by keeping progs out of the country.

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Mafia Dons love construction projects. Great way to get public money into the hands of the family.


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 02/14/2020 04:28 AM
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And Mexico is gonna pay for it. They are so gonna pay for it. Not with 3.8 billion dollars. Not with their money. It's out money from our military and our military didn't need it anyway. After all, our frenemies like North Korea, China and Russia aren't building their military's capabilities.

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 02/14/2020 05:19 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Tough call, but in the end, our security is best served by keeping progs out of the country.


I fenced in an 8th of my property, it keep all intruders out. lol



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 02/14/2020 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Tough call, but in the end, our security is best served by keeping progs out of the country.

Mexico was supposed to pay for it. Another promise broken i.e. trump is the liar we all know him to be...


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Most people just step off an airplane and disappear into the crowd.

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That fence is going to be tall enough to keep out planes.

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 02/14/2020 07:00 AM
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Hell hath frozen over. We have Democrats bitching about cutting military spending. Like it or not, the wall will have real ROI associated with it.

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 02/14/2020 07:26 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Hell hath frozen over. We have Democrats bitching about cutting military spending. Like it or not, the wall will have real ROI associated with it.



Cutting? It's still being spent and with less effective results.


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 02/14/2020 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

Hell hath frozen over. We have Democrats bitching about cutting military spending. Like it or not, the wall will have real ROI associated with it.


Please explain what the ROI is. From what I've seen in reports and articles from places like Stanford and MIT the ROI is horrible.

Taking money form the Military which provides a real benefit both near and long term and building a southern boarder wall which arguably isn't necessary or provides any better protection than what we now have is the problem. Especially when the Cheeto said Mexico is going to pay for it and it would not impact our budget.




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 02/14/2020 07:54 AM
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ROI? Sniper thinks we are going to evade some sort of cost?

The wall will have massive holes in it. Why?

The GOP tools have no understanding of the eminent domain issues. They are f-ing their own kind as twitler lovers will be forced to give up their land.

That $hit will be in courts for decades to come.

The business of taking Americans land.

Edited: 02/14/2020 at 07:58 AM by Greensleeves
 02/14/2020 08:01 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Hell hath frozen over. We have Democrats bitching about cutting military spending. Like it or not, the wall will have real ROI associated with it.


I'd spend it on healthcare for working people. That would be a human ROI.

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 02/14/2020 08:19 AM
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I think snippy got some well deserved responses. It's not saving money. It's not helping the military and it's not even a mediocre result for that kind of money.

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 02/14/2020 08:42 AM
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If Trump had only ended catch and release and built the wall then his presidency would have been a success. Unfortunately for all you Stalinists, Marxists, and Maoists out there, he also decided to go ahead and oversee record-low unemployment, trade deals that benefit all of us, record-high stock market records, an economy in which the bottom 50% are improving at a much higher rate than the top 1%, making strides in the opioid crisis, and energy independence.

Democrats bitching about cutting military spending is like a dog bitching at its owner for beating the cat.

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 02/14/2020 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

I think snippy got some well deserved responses. It's not saving money. It's not helping the military and it's not even a mediocre result for that kind of money.


Just because I triggered some of you freaks doesn't mean the responses amounted to more than temper tantrums.

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 02/14/2020 04:22 PM
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Cole

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Military spending isn't being cut.

Trump's jobs numbers are less than the last three years of Obama.

There are still billions in tariffs.

Trump's spent $1.7 trillion to get Obama's growth average.

Energy independence was well under way in the Obama years.

Some of the increase at the bottom is due to the increase in minimum wage in the Blue states.

All of these are verifiable if you care too look.



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 02/14/2020 04:24 PM
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Here, I saved you some time.

http://markets.businessinsider...creased-under-trump-7

And take a gander at Trump's trade balance numbers. Tariffs work?

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 02/14/2020 04:28 PM
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And the debt is taking off like a rocket ship in low gravity. $250 billion in a couple of months?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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