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Topic Title: Trump cannot pardon Stone.
Topic Summary: Because he was impeached.
Created On: 02/27/2020 05:22 AM
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johnnyboy

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Impeachment powers for co-conspirators dies with the impeachment, not the conviction.

http://www.politico.com/news/m...ne-constitution-117757

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 02/27/2020 07:32 AM
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I think he will try, and it will be up to SCOTUS to enforce the Constitution. Will they? Interesting.

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 02/27/2020 07:51 AM
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Very very interesting to see if and how trump will disregard this.

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 02/27/2020 08:28 AM
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But-- he was acquitted libtards!!

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Cole

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Originally posted by: crankit

But-- he was acquitted libtards!!


Acquitted? That's a big lol.

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Jesus Crankit is a blockhead.

Hiliarious about Stone though LOL

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 02/27/2020 11:35 AM
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johnnyboy

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No. He was not acquitted. He was convicted and quickly too.

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SlimyBritches

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

No. He was not acquitted. He was convicted and quickly too.


Who's the libtard now, KKKrammit?
 02/27/2020 01:00 PM
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dingpatch

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Ummmmmm, , , , perhaps just as "convicted" as OJ was???

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

No. He was not acquitted. He was convicted and quickly too.


Liar!

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hmmm, who to believe here - a fat fake racist christian with anger issues, or an actual lawyer.

i'll take the lawyer...

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Ummmmmm, , , , perhaps just as "convicted" as OJ was???


Yep. And just as guilty!

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Originally posted by: Pagerow

Originally posted by: dingpatch



Ummmmmm, , , , perhaps just as "convicted" as OJ was???




Yep. And just as guilty!



LOL Dingbat making the perfect comparision- both guilty AF


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dingpatch

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wtf, , , , ,

So, therein lies the dichotomy, , , , , tpapablo is also a lawyer, , , , ,

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He's also a douchebag, so...

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 02/27/2020 01:44 PM
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johnnyboy

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Roger Stone was not acquitted. He was convicted by a jury after a trial. There is no wiggle room on this. Trump was impeached, which triggers a different section of the impeachment rule that says that he may not use his pardon power on people closely associated with him.

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 02/27/2020 01:46 PM
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>>Under Article II, Section II of the Constitution, the president is given the "power to grant reprieves and pardons for offences against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." Pardons are supposed to be used as acts of mercy. The framers thought of the pardon power as a "benign prerogative" - prerogative because it was mostly unchecked by courts or Congress, but benign because presidents would use it for the public good.


But the framers knew not to place blind trust in the president to wield the power justly. That's why they explicitly forbade a president from exercising the pardon power in "cases of impeachment." The clause prevents the worst abuse of the pardon power: a president's protecting cronies who have been convicted of crimes related to the president's own wrongdoing.<<

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 02/27/2020 02:03 PM
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RustyTruck

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I think the SCOTUS will rule 5 to 4 that trump can use the the Constitution as toilet paper if he wants to. He's the god emperor now of the holy republican empire.

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Merica. Sad what's happening to us.

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 02/27/2020 04:50 PM
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wtf

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

wtf, , , , ,



So, therein lies the dichotomy, , , , , tpapablo is also a lawyer, , , , ,

Oh I am aware. There is no dichotomy, johnnyboy is a far superior lawyer...



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