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 07/06/2020 10:14 AM
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Houston Hospitals Getting Crushed By COVID-19 Explosion, Mayor Says
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The Houston hospital system is at serious risk of being completely overwhelmed by a record spike in COVID-19 cases, Mayor Sylvester Turner said Sunday.

"The number of people who are getting sick and going to the hospitals has exponentially increased," Turner, a Democrat, said on CBS' "Face The Nation." "The number of people in our ICU beds has exponentially increased. ... If we don't get our hands around this virus quickly, in about two weeks our hospital system could be in serious, serious trouble ... overwhelmed."

The issue, said Turner, is health care workers. "We can always provide additional beds, but we need the people, the nurses ... the medical professionals to staff those beds. That's the critical point right now."

An astonishing one in every four people in the city tested for COVID-19 is now testing positive for the disease, he said. Just a month ago, that figure was one in every 10 people.

Forty states are experiencing increases in cases, but Texas, Florida and Arizona have been particularly hard hit.

The situation in Texas is so dire that the state has frozen plans to reopen the economy and is reimposing restrictions on businesses in a bid to help stem the rapid spread of the disease.

Turner said the state tried to race back to normal activity far too soon.

"We were opening too quickly, too fast," he said. "If you look at the second week in May going forward, the numbers started to increase. When you layer that on top of everything else, all the other activities that were taking place, and people starting to resocialize, then you started to refuel the virus."

In mid-May Houston tallied an average of nearly 250 new cases daily. By the last week of June, that number soared to 1,600.

Both Florida and Texas reported their biggest daily increase in new cases over the past few days, with Florida tallying 11,443 new cases and Texas reporting a record 8,258 new cases.

There have been more than 2.8 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the U.S. and 129,000 deaths.

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 07/06/2020 10:43 AM
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Bring on the fear-porn! ICU's typically operate at 80%+ capacity. Nobody makes money on empty hospital beds.

ICU untilization in Houston was at 95% on June 25th of 2019.

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 07/06/2020 07:35 PM
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So now the ICU's will be at 150 percent?

I take it this is MAGA winning?

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 07/06/2020 07:38 PM
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ICU's typically operate at 80%? Ehhhh... I'm gonna ask my neighbor (doctor, works at hospital) about that one..

and yeah- will we be MAGA winning if the parking lot becomes an ICU (without enough vents, of course)

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 07/07/2020 06:02 AM
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ICU's typically operate at 80%?

I agree, that certainly seems far fetched.

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 07/07/2020 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

ICU's typically operate at 80%?



I agree, that certainly seems far fetched.


Well whats funny is that you both are full of shit with your speculation!

"As a former Tampa Bay area nurse, I just want to point out that our ICUs stay at about 80% full on a regular night. Central Florida is not prepared for this. We have the most unhealthy comorbid area in the nation and barely enough beds to deal with it on the regular. I would CONSTANTLY get patients who were supposed to get ICU beds while working on a surgical step-down unit and there is no limit as to how many patients a nurse will be given.

Good riddance and good luck to that hell hole."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Corona...t_of_icu_beds/fx0jzss/

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 07/07/2020 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole ICU's typically operate at 80%? I agree, that certainly seems far fetched.
Many big city ICUs are higher than that. The facts are out there. But if you learned or understood them, it would show you that you have been stupid all these years. Progs aren't capable of dealing with something like that. In any case, ICU's aren't filling up with covid patients. Deaths are decreasing. And soon cowardly progs will have to find another excuse to hide under their beds.

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 07/07/2020 06:28 AM
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I love when I provide links to back up what I am saying in my post and people respond with stuff like, "that sounds suspicious...I'm going to have to see where you got this information." Okay, Poindexters. I'll give you a hint. It's right under your nose.

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 07/07/2020 06:31 AM
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Excess capacity is discouraged under capitalism. Therefore it tends systemically to be more reactive than systems which plan for potential future needs.

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 07/07/2020 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Excess capacity is discouraged under capitalism. Therefore it tends systemically to be more reactive than systems which plan for potential future needs.
Excess capacity is discouraged under every system, communism most of all. If hospital built and maintained the ICU capacity to handle the worst case scenario, we would have no hospitals. All of them would be bankrupt.

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 07/07/2020 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Excess capacity is discouraged under capitalism. Therefore it tends systemically to be more reactive than systems which plan for potential future needs.


Excess capacity is discouraged under every system, communism most of all. If hospital built and maintained the ICU capacity to handle the worst case scenario, we would have no hospitals. All of them would be bankrupt.


False; under a planned economy future needs are considered in the planning and allocation of resources. In fact most social democracies plan for capacity within their national healthcare systems. Unfortunately we don't have one.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Edited: 07/07/2020 at 06:55 AM by RustyTruck
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: RustyTruck Excess capacity is discouraged under capitalism. Therefore it tends systemically to be more reactive than systems which plan for potential future needs.
Excess capacity is discouraged under every system, communism most of all. If hospital built and maintained the ICU capacity to handle the worst case scenario, we would have no hospitals. All of them would be bankrupt.
False; under a planned economy future needs are considered in the planning and allocation of resources. In fact most social democracies plan for capacity within their national healthcare systems. Unfortunately we don't have one.
False. We have the most ICU capacity of almost every country on earth. Why? Because we are rich. Why are we rich? Because of capitalism. We have 35 critical care beds per 100,000. The highest communist nation is China, coming in with 3.6.

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 07/07/2020 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

I love when I provide links to back up what I am saying in my post and people respond with stuff like, "that sounds suspicious...I'm going to have to see where you got this information." Okay, Poindexters. I'll give you a hint. It's right under your nose.


In Detroit, Houston and LA, sure, but those out of the dense population centers are what I am referring to.



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 07/07/2020 07:26 AM
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you have been stupid all these years. Progs aren't capable of dealing with something like that.


Someone said 80 percent means 8 of 10, can anyone confirm?

 07/07/2020 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Originally posted by: tpapablo



Originally posted by: RustyTruck



Excess capacity is discouraged under capitalism. Therefore it tends systemically to be more reactive than systems which plan for potential future needs.




Excess capacity is discouraged under every system, communism most of all. If hospital built and maintained the ICU capacity to handle the worst case scenario, we would have no hospitals. All of them would be bankrupt.




False; under a planned economy future needs are considered in the planning and allocation of resources. In fact most social democracies plan for capacity within their national healthcare systems. Unfortunately we don't have one.


False. We have the most ICU capacity of almost every country on earth. Why? Because we are rich. Why are we rich? Because of capitalism. We have 35 critical care beds per 100,000. The highest communist nation is China, coming in with 3.6.


http://www.kff.org/health-cost...ed-by-covid-19/


The U.S. Has Fewer Physicians and Hospital Beds Per Capita Than Italy and Other Countries Overwhelmed by COVID-19

A new analysis and chart collection finds that the U.S. has fewer hospital beds and practicing physicians per capita than many similarly large and wealthy countries with health care systems already strained by the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

Compared to Italy and Spain, two countries in which hospitals have already been overwhelmed by an influx of COVID-19 patients, the U.S. has fewer practicing physicians per capita - 2.6 per 1,000 people, compared to 4.0 in Italy and 3.9 in Spain - but more licensed nurses. While the U.S. has a higher number of total hospital employees than most comparable countries, nearly half of that workforce is comprised of non-clinical staff who are not directly involved in delivering care.

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 07/07/2020 07:57 AM
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We were talking about ICU beds, weren't we? The Italian medical system was overwhelmed. Ours was not. Ours is better by far. And our pharmaceutical companies will develop the vaccine, and/or treatment. Cuba's will not.

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 07/07/2020 08:05 AM
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7,347 new cases today with a record high 20.8% positivity rate. #NotOver

63 new deaths.

Edited: 07/07/2020 at 08:06 AM by RiddleMe
 07/07/2020 08:21 AM
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If you have a pre-existing condition, take care of yourself.

Everyone didn't stop their daily briefings on coronavirus because we are in the throes of this thing.

Sorry to pour a cool cup of water on your daily dose of fear porn.

Hospitalizations:
Cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates since March 1, 2020, are updated weekly. The overall cumulative COVID-19 hospitalization rate is 102.5 per 100,000, with the highest rates in people aged 65 years and older (306.7 per 100,000) and 50-64 years (155.0 per 100,000).

Deaths:
Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 9.0% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26, representing the tenth week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks.


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 07/07/2020 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

We were talking about ICU beds, weren't we? The Italian medical system was overwhelmed. Ours was not. Ours is better by far. And our pharmaceutical companies will develop the vaccine, and/or treatment. Cuba's will not.


No, you were talking about ICU beds, I was talking about "just in time" management vs. planned economies in healthcare.

Cuba is the world leader in medical doctors per capita the last time I checked, and they are world renowned for vaccine development. Certainly you don't think Gilead Sciences is the only pharma outfit who are trying to develop Covid vaccines?

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 07/07/2020 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper
Everyone didn't stop their daily briefings on coronavirus because we are in the throes of this thing.


They stopped in Washington because it didn't fit the narrative Trump wanted to present, duh. They are meeting 3x a week, sans the president of course. It just isn't a public meeting.

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