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07/07/2020 08:40 AM
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07/07/2020 08:49 AM
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The American healthcare system sucks if you lose your job and healthcare coverage.
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/07/2020 10:20 AM
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------------------------- "I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time" |
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07/07/2020 10:22 AM
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If you have a pre-existing condition, take care of yourself. Everyone didn't stop their daily briefings on coronavirus because we are in the throes of this thing. Sorry to pour a cool cup of water on your daily dose of fear porn. Hospitalizations: Cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates since March 1, 2020, are updated weekly. The overall cumulative COVID-19 hospitalization rate is 102.5 per 100,000, with the highest rates in people aged 65 years and older (306.7 per 100,000) and 50-64 years (155.0 per 100,000). Deaths: Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 9.0% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26, representing the tenth week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks. Whether or not coronavirus is worse that the flu, really depends on how old you are. Cumulatively, coronavirus hospitalizations are at 102.5 per 100,000 people. The flu is at 68 hospitalizations per 100,000 people. The only difference between the graphs is that with flu, young kids are hit almost as hard as old people. With Coronavirus, we are seeing 306.7 hospitalizations per 100,000 people for people of 65 years old+ and in the graph for flu, we have around 93 hospitalizations per 100,000 people for kids 0-4 years old and 180+ hospitalizations per 100,000 people in people over 65 years old. We don't close schools for flu and we don't wear masks for flu. ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden Edited: 07/07/2020 at 10:26 AM by Sniper |
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07/07/2020 10:30 AM
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That isn't per case. That is per capita annual total for flu and year to date for Covid 19. It takes 60 million flu infections to hit that per capita rate. How many Covid infections has it taken to get a 100/100000 cumulative rate in 6 months? What then will the cumulative rate be if Covid infections are allowed to become as prevalent as the flu?
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07/07/2020 10:43 AM
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07/07/2020 10:54 AM
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Interactive flu hospitalizations chart.
Interactive COVID hospitalization chart. Honestly, new cases don't interest me all that much. I care how many people are being hospitalized and dying. ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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07/07/2020 10:59 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/07/2020 11:03 AM
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"Honestly, new cases don't interest me all that much"
They appear to interest Governors and municipalities as they reign in reopening. |
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07/07/2020 11:07 AM
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07/07/2020 11:08 AM
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Ya, factual numbers are just plain Hateful and are made up by people who hate America! LOL, LOL, LOL!
The "flu" is pretty bad in its own right but, , , , COVID-19 has racked up some pretty horrible numbers in just 5 months (Feb - Jun). AND, make no doubts about it, , , , we are still in the first "phase" of COVID-19. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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07/07/2020 11:09 AM
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07/07/2020 11:12 AM
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Interactive flu hospitalizations chart. Interactive COVID hospitalization chart. Honestly, new cases don't interest me all that much. I care how many people are being hospitalized and dying. Per case is the relevant number and you repeatedly refuse to provide it. Covid-19 in 4 months has surpassed the per capita hospitalization rate for annual flu totals. How many cases were needed to achieve that? You see that I am linking straight from the CDC's weekly report and posting what they think is the relevant information. If you are saying that you have a better source, then by all means post it. ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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07/07/2020 11:12 AM
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I ask again. It takes ~60 million flu infections to put 68/100,000 of the population at large in the hospital in a year. How many Covid-19 infections has it taken since January 1 to put 100/100,000 of the population at large in the hospital and kill >100,000 people?
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07/07/2020 11:18 AM
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07/07/2020 11:18 AM
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Don't bother with sniper. His mind is made up. He'll find any link anywhere on the internet and try to make it seem like he is right.
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07/07/2020 11:20 AM
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Interactive flu hospitalizations chart. Interactive COVID hospitalization chart. Honestly, new cases don't interest me all that much. I care how many people are being hospitalized and dying. Per case is the relevant number and you repeatedly refuse to provide it. Covid-19 in 4 months has surpassed the per capita hospitalization rate for annual flu totals. How many cases were needed to achieve that? You see that I am linking straight from the CDC's weekly report and posting what they think is the relevant information. If you are saying that you have a better source, then by all means post it. You are making an incorrect assertion that Covid-19 is no more virulent than the flu by conflating the per infection rate of hospitalization with the cumulative per capita rates. If you are under 65 years old, then the flu is much more virulent. ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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07/07/2020 11:24 AM
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07/07/2020 11:30 AM
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"Look, there's no law against ignorance. It's not illegal to have opinions that are wrong," Hanks said. "But there is a darkness on the edge of town here folks, and ... let's not confuse the fact: It's killing people. ... Yeah, that's right. It's killing people.
"And you can say, 'Well, traffic accidents kill an awful lot of people too.' A traffic accident happened because a lot of drivers aren't doing their part. ... I don't know how common sense has somehow been put in question." Tom Hanks ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/07/2020 11:32 AM
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Interactive flu hospitalizations chart. Interactive COVID hospitalization chart. Honestly, new cases don't interest me all that much. I care how many people are being hospitalized and dying. Per case is the relevant number and you repeatedly refuse to provide it. Covid-19 in 4 months has surpassed the per capita hospitalization rate for annual flu totals. How many cases were needed to achieve that? You see that I am linking straight from the CDC's weekly report and posting what they think is the relevant information. If you are saying that you have a better source, then by all means post it. You are making an incorrect assertion that Covid-19 is no more virulent than the flu by conflating the per infection rate of hospitalization with the cumulative per capita rates. If you are under 65 years old, then the flu is much more virulent. You can't discern that from the CDC per capita numbers that you linked. You have to look at the per case rates to make that determination. You are assuming that the number of people that have had Covid-19 so far is comparable to the number of people that get the flu in a year. Do you have a basis for that assumption? You said "virulent". vir-u-lent adjective 1.(of a disease or poison) extremely severe or harmful in its effects. 2. bitterly hostile. Is that the word you meant to use? ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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