Trump has become the swamp




Supreme Court battle after Ginsburg's death could fracture Trump's coalition
Analysis: Biden has a chance to win back more Obama-to-Trump voters - if he drives the right message.

Sept. 21, 2020, 9:12 AM EDT
By David Wasserman

Since Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death, several analysts have speculated the colossal Supreme Court fight to come will help President Donald Trump by rallying traditional GOP voters and shifting the focus of 2020 from mismanagement of Covid-19 to a more straightforward partisan cage match.

That's possible, but given the potential for the court to take a sharp right turn, a pre-election Supreme Court fight carries much bigger risks for Trump than the Brett Kavanaugh brawl did in 2018.

Namely, there's potential for Roe v. Wade and the Affordable Care Act to drive a wedge in Trump's coalition. In 2016, much of his support came from voters who disliked Hillary Clinton, liked Trump's rhetoric on trade and immigration, but consider themselves pro-choice - especially non-evangelical, blue-collar women. And, these voters remain up for grabs in 2020.
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The 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES), a 50,000-plus person national survey conducted by YouGov, measured voters' attitudes toward the abortion issue on a six-question scale. Specifically, it asked voters whether they support or oppose the following proposals:

1) Always allow a woman to obtain an abortion as a matter of choice.

2) Permit abortion only in cases of rape, incest or when the woman's life is in danger.

3) Ban abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy.

4) Allow employers to decline coverage of abortions in insurance plans.

5) Prohibit the expenditure of funds authorized or appropriated by federal law for any abortion.

6) Make abortion illegal in all circumstances.



I rated anyone who chose the pro-abortion rights or anti-abortion side on four, five or six of these six questions as at least "leaning" toward that position, and labeled voters who split their answers evenly down the middle as having "mixed" views.

Not surprisingly, 74 percent of Clinton's voters at least leaned pro-abortion rights, while only 15 percent leaned anti-abortion and 11 percent held mixed views. But only 65 percent of Trump's voters at least leaned anti-abortion, while a substantial 22 percent at least leaned pro-abortion rights and 13 percent held mixed views. Among third party voters, views on abortion were almost evenly split.

Although Trump downplayed the abortion issue in 2016 in favor of more populist economic messages on trade and immigration, voters with mostly pro-abortion rights attitudes made up more than a fifth of his support in plenty of battleground states: 25 percent in Iowa; 24 percent in Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania; 21 percent in Arizona; and 20 percent in Ohio and Wisconsin.

For decades, many of these blue-collar, pro-choice Trump supporters had voted for Democrats because they saw Republicans as a coalition of corporatists and "Bible thumpers" who sermonized against abortion and same-sex marriage. But in 2016, they didn't mind Trump as much because they saw him as an anti-elite outsider who didn't hold rigid positions on those wedge social issues.

Today, there may be an opportunity for Joe Biden to win back many of these Obama-to-Trump defectors by tying Trump to the "D.C. swamp": Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and the establishment Republicans who - as Democrats argue - want to end Roe v. Wade, cut taxes for billionaires and strike down the Affordable Care Act during a pandemic.

The populist attack that, according to polls, should scare Republicans the most probably goes something like this: "In 2016, Trump promised to drain the swamp. Instead, he became the swamp: He let Mitch McConnell and stock-dumping, ultra-far right GOP senators write his entire domestic agenda." But today, few ads by Biden or Democratic outside groups have attempted to make this link.

It's also not clear whether groups like the Lincoln Project, whose ads mainly feature over-the-top anti-Trump messaging that amounts to catnip for base Democrats and "Never Trump" Republicans, understand this type of swing voter.

Bottom line: The millions of Obama-to-Trump voters who will decide the 2020 election in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and elsewhere tend to tune out attacks on Trump as a divisive or bad person. But they've long despised McConnell, "establishment" Republicans and the religious right - and a Supreme Court fight gives Democrats an opportunity to rip Trump's coalition open.

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When America was "great"

The chumpf, and his inbred magat sheep just don't seem to understand exactly how American women, and girls: cherished the always decent and honorable Ms. Ginsburg.
The notorious RBG phenomenon resonated with them in a way you fascist, misogynistic chumpfscum will never quite understand..
Stay stupid.....

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It's a democratic hoax

Edited: 09/21/2020 at 04:41 PM by nukeh2o

I'd be shocked if Faux's Judge June wasn't on Donald Q's list of 5 SCOTUS nominees.

Could backfire on him? Has he played anything right lately? He should be waltzing into a second term election victory instead its Biden getting stronger. Trump keeps playing to the same base that was going to vote for him anyway. Young people hate him. And now he's driving every last woman and anybody that has any morals or sense of fairplay to the Democrats. Trump is a dumb ass of epic proportion's.

43%. They want to be told what to do by an older man who speaks confidently whether it's about falling in love with a North Korean dictator or New York real estate. They have cast their lot with him and it's their commitment to maintain loyalty despite everything.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

This morning the Senate Republicans report that they do have the votes necessary to appoint a Supreme.

We shall see.

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Dora Hates You

Sure they do, Murkowski and Collins always give in at the last minute.



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I was right.

I'll bet a few Dems too depending on the pick.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

So what, what's health care anyway. The gop replacement plan is awesome.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

No dem is going to vote for the unqualified rube the QOP advances

They have people who are "qualified", it's just that they are conservative and anti-abortion.

There's nothing to stop them now, all you can hope for is that some members of the court loosen up now that they have a lifetime appointment.

Biden won't pack the court, so women's reproductive rights are going to take a hit and the ACA is probably dead. I expect to hear echoes of "how dare you sir!"


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Mitt Romney is the Lindsey Graham of Marco Rubios

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

That's perfect jd.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Biden, Pelosi, Schumer scorned is a perfect scenario for foot on the neck extermination of the QOP. Then a handoff to the real progressives.

There are no young QOP followers to trudge in the racist, greedy footsteps of the dotard movement.

Socialism is just a few years out.

SAD.

Here was a real opportunity to unite the country a bit.. and show some respect for America as a whole.

Instead they are making the most divisive move possible.. proving they can't be trusted. (do as I say, not as I do)


This is a mistake that will live on for generations, and they will ultimately pay dearly for it.


Who suffers the most? The poor, the uninsured.. women and America as a country.


Way to go Dotards!




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When America was "great"

Edited: 09/22/2020 at 09:33 AM by fishkller

It ain't over yet. I'm hoping this is the darkest dark before the dawn.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Yeah but more likely it's darkest just before pitch black.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

America will survive the dotards. They are a nasty bull$Hit movement like the confederacy or the plague. We beat both of those things.

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When America was "great"

CNN suggests trump is leaning toward Barrett, and almost sure vote against Roe and ACA. She seems a more controversial pick.

I think Lagoa makes more sense, but I guess he wants to deliver the goods for the jesus freaks.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".