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 10/19/2020 06:45 AM
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stokedpanda

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Anyone think since wuss bag trump bailed on the debate we should let some 3rd parties in?

It would be nice to hear some new ideas, and end the era of "the lesser of two evils" vote.

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 10/19/2020 06:48 AM
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Interesting question. What threshold did JJ not meet in order to qualify for the debates?

Yes lets get those third party candidates some air time.

Someone call Yeezy! Is David Duke still running?
 10/19/2020 07:20 AM
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If Dems will go to court to try and keep the Green Party off the ballot, you can be sure there's no way they would agree to a debate with them.

The Dems only exist because they can sell themselves as the lesser of two evils, and to maintain that they have to gatekeep the process.

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 10/19/2020 01:59 PM
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What a shame, how many million voters and they get two Options

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And neither option will do a damn thing to improve material conditions for workers.



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It's a shame social security won't exist for you dumb a$$es. Oh and the environment will be a sewer. JJ 2020 (really a vote for trump)!!

Russki just a trump supporting Commie tool. UAW? For Joe. Teachers Unions? Joe!

Get your info right comrade
 10/20/2020 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck And neither option will do a damn thing to improve material conditions for workers.
Both sides are the same eh? What has the GOP done to the courts in the last 3.5 years? How do the conservative supreme court findings here lately treat workers? How about the GOP Department of Heath and Human Services, Federal Communications Commission, Securities and Exchange Commission, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Department of Energy, EPA? Their impact on workers is the same under McConnell/Trump as under Obama/Biden? Really? How about Desantis' judicial appointments. Have you not noticed that his appointments are all very young corporate lawyers and lobbyists? At least Scott, Crist, and Bush elevated judges and trial lawyers from lower courts. Desantis is doing just like Trump and appointing corporate lickspittle handed to him by A.L.E.C. But keep playing the "both sides are just as bad" card.

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves Interesting question. What threshold did JJ not meet in order to qualify for the debates? Yes lets get those third party candidates some air time. Someone call Yeezy! Is David Duke still running?
Maybe JJ and the Greens can go be VIPs at a Russia Today Gala and sit at Pootie's table like they did in the last couple of elections. Sad really. Fucking useful idiots participating in those RT sponsored events.

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Libertarians have nothing to offer. Ooh, they are going to legalize pot and gambling. Whoopie. Have you looked at their over-arching political and economic philosophy? They basically believe that whomever has the money should have the power and that there should be no government. They literally believe that there would be no hazard in there being no public sector and that rich people can fund their own police and that it would be perfectly just as long as everyone cooperates and adheres to an ethic wherein all transactions are completely voluntary. I am not making this up. Private Police. Read their other writings and think about the logical end game of their proposed anarchy ruled entirely by capital.

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Hate the forum software stopping me posting paragraphs. Consider the utopia proposed in that Mises musing I linked. It existed in 19th century coal camps and towns. They think that is desirable?

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

And neither option will do a damn thing to improve material conditions for workers.


Both sides are the same eh? What has the GOP done to the courts in the last 3.5 years? How do the conservative supreme court findings here lately treat workers? How about the GOP Department of Heath and Human Services, Federal Communications Commission, Securities and Exchange Commission, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Department of Energy, EPA? Their impact on workers is the same under McConnell/Trump as under Obama/Biden? Really? How about Desantis' judicial appointments. Have you not noticed that his appointments are all very young corporate lawyers and lobbyists? At least Scott, Crist, and Bush elevated judges and trial lawyers from lower courts. Desantis is doing just like Trump and appointing corporate lickspittle handed to him by A.L.E.C. But keep playing the "both sides are just as bad" card.



That's not what I said. I said neither one is going to do anything to help working class Americans. That's not the same thing, but the point is lost on you guys.

But if you guys lose twice by running some center right DNC chosen shithead I hope the Democratic party hemorrhages and dies.

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 10/20/2020 05:41 AM
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Rusty has turned angry and that has made him become clueless, Trump and Biden are nowhere near the same.

Hell, Rusty even throws Liz into the mix and she has done or attempted to do more for the people than anyone in decades. No late fees on debit cards, lower interest rate penalties on credit cards, reduced predatory lending from banks and pay day businesses and the fight for a higher minimum wage.

They ain't the same by a long shot.

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 10/20/2020 05:45 AM
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Rusty, the socialist candidate lost because America doesn't want a socialist candidate.

Individual votes cost Bernie the nod. That's simply a fact.

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 10/20/2020 07:03 AM
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He probably thinks that Jim Kennedy and Bill "Birther" Posey are the same.

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 10/20/2020 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid

Libertarians have nothing to offer. Ooh, they are going to legalize pot and gambling. Whoopie. Have you looked at their over-arching political and economic philosophy? They basically believe that whomever has the money should have the power and that there should be no government. They literally believe that there would be no hazard in there being no public sector and that rich people can fund their own police and that it would be perfectly just as long as everyone cooperates and adheres to an ethic wherein all transactions are completely voluntary. I am not making this up.
Private Police. Read their other writings and think about the logical end game of their proposed anarchy ruled entirely by capital.


I think they rely on people being taking ownership for their destiny. True freedom, also with twitter and facebook there is a lot of over arching political and economic philosophy going on already just disguised which is worse IMO

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 10/20/2020 07:21 AM
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To be clear:

A vote for anyone other than Biden IS A VOTE FOR the insane clown tyrant.

Once the tyrant is gone all other issues can be sanely and democratically resolved.

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Originally posted by: Cole

Rusty, the socialist candidate lost because America doesn't want a socialist candidate.



Individual votes cost Bernie the nod. That's simply a fact.


That's not true, but explaining it again isn't going to change the narrative for you.

But I'll say this, if trump wins in a couple weeks, are you prepared to say the same about two consecutive Democratic candidates? Funny how when the chosen one from the DNC loses it's for every reason OTHER than the voters will.

And for those of you who engage in vote shaming, it's a bad look really. Maybe next time you should choose a better candidate.

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Originally posted by: jdbman

To be clear:



A vote for anyone other than Biden IS A VOTE FOR the insane clown tyrant.



Once the tyrant is gone all other issues can be sanely and democratically resolved.


Yep, I couldn't agree more. There is no need to tear it all down when you can erase the page and start fresh. Trump has ruled by executive order. That all can be wiped away in the first week.



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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Originally posted by: Cole



Rusty, the socialist candidate lost because America doesn't want a socialist candidate.







Individual votes cost Bernie the nod. That's simply a fact.




That's not true, but explaining it again isn't going to change the narrative for you.



But I'll say this, if trump wins in a couple weeks, are you prepared to say the same about two consecutive Democratic candidates? Funny how when the chosen one from the DNC loses it's for every reason OTHER than the voters will.


Yes, the cabal is against Bernie. Deepstate and all that.

If this was true, why does Bernie back Biden?



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rusty the willing dotard The QOP and Putin love that kind of traitor. A pushover. People with wills are harder to break.
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