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Topic Title: The Big Lie.
Topic Summary: Was that trump won the election.
Created On: 01/10/2021 07:54 AM
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 01/10/2021 07:54 AM
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johnnyboy

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Today is a good day to remember a quote by Goebbels.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

This could be the beginning or the end of trumpism. This next week will tell.

It is not about having the legal right to object. That objection rejected the lawful results of a valid election. No fraud, no theft and no scandal. The anomalies that exist in every election were exaggerated by a pathological liar who put all of his chips on this last bet: I won and it's only fraud, theft and lies that have prevented my second term. A big lie.

He needed more liars to keep this lie alive and give it stamina. He found liars in his party. They saw his success with lies. They envied his power and coveted his wealth. They would lie for him and with him because they could benefit with the people that bought these lies and supported the big liar. It was harmless, they reasoned, because everyone else would be honest and vote down the lie and they could lie and get all of the benefits and none of the detriments.

They joined the chorus of the big lie. They all told his big lie. They kept repeating it. Fox repeated it, but not enough, so OAN jumped in with Newsmax. They maintained the lie literally every day with "news" that the election results were untrustworthy, illegal and unfair. Legitimate news reported that this was not true. It was a lie. This lie was not based on evidence, facts or proof. It never was.

The truth was stronger than the lie. The Liars attacked every source of truth. The liars very existence depended on these lies so they lied louder and more often. But the courts require truth and liars couldn't put their names on the sworn affidavits required in the lawsuits. The big lie was sucking wind, not taken as dangerous because the public's fatigue at all these liars lies had desensitized them.

The lie was sucking wind, but it was getting pure oxygen on websites that prided themselves on "alternative facts," a term that sought to normalize lies and prevent the truth from contradicting them. The words were cheap and the followers wanted action.

January 6, 2021 is a day that will live in infamy. The liars followers organized, staged and participated in a coup. The lies took the form of a mob and they murdered a police officer. Others died. The second, third and fourth in command of our country were less than a minute away from being overrun by the mob.

It's over now. But there has to be a reckoning and the festering boil of trumpism has to be lanced and excised. The 130 GOP house members that lent their names and position to this lie, the senate members of the sedition caucus and all of the people amplifying the lie they knew or should have known was a lie.

Let the reckoning begin.



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 01/10/2021 08:13 AM
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gdudewe

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2+2=5


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 01/10/2021 08:17 AM
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gdudewe

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Fox has been winning this war since it hit the cable airwaves. You have to give Roger Ailes credit, he accomplished exactly what he set out to do, until the shit hit the fan.

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 01/10/2021 08:33 AM
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johnnyboy

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Agreed. But the existence of their lies is not the issue. It's the prevalence and the severity. They tried to report that this was antifa but the images were everywhere to the contrary. They face some offended fans no matter what they do next.

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 01/10/2021 11:50 AM
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StirfryMcflurry

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sorry guys, US is done. you hate to hear it.
 01/11/2021 05:45 AM
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johnnyboy

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Politico headline: "Trump's effort to overturn the election should be investigated like 911."
http://www.politico.com/news/m...vestigated-911-457269

And how many republicans are still going to be clamoring for an investigation into Russian hacked pictures of hunter Biden snorting coke off their honey trap's breasts?

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 01/11/2021 06:44 AM
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SlimyBritches

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Politico headline: "Trump's effort to overturn the election should be investigated like 911."

http://www.politico.com/news/m...ated-911-457269



And how many republicans are still going to be clamoring for an investigation into Russian hacked pictures of hunter Biden snorting coke off their honey trap's breasts?


Meaning another gubmint cover up?
 01/11/2021 07:25 AM
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johnnyboy

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Entirely possible.

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 01/16/2021 05:55 AM
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>> In his cover story for The New York Times Magazine this week, Snyder calls Trump "the high priest of the big lie."

As for where big lies lead, Snyder writes: "Post-truth is pre-fascism, and Trump has been our post-truth president."

"When I say pre-fascism, I mean when you take away facts, you're opening the way for something else," Snyder tells NPR. "You're opening the way for someone who says 'I am the truth. I am your voice,' to quote Mr. Trump - which is something that fascists said, as a matter of fact. The three-word chants, the idea that the press are the enemy of the people: These are all fascist concepts."<<




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 01/16/2021 08:36 AM
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follydude

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The bastion of conservatism, The American Spectator, tweeted something interesting.

They didn't place the statement in the body of their website nor did they make any special editorial post, they tweeted that they were mistaken and wanted to set the record straight that Dominion did not mess with the election.

Despite saying previously that Venezuela was involved, that votes were manipulated in Germany, that a vast conspiracy from Hillary Clinton all the way down to volunteer poll workers were in on the fraud, that they were wrong and (sorta) sorry.

Why the "come to Jesus" moment?

They're getting sued by Dominion.


 01/18/2021 03:57 PM
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Fish Killer

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Stolen FAKE rigged election!

FACT!

...and you will NEVERE remove your stain!

EVER!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 01/18/2021 04:24 PM
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johnnyboy

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It's funny how the legal system is going to force these people to state they lied when they said the election was stolen.

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 01/18/2021 04:40 PM
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nukeh2o

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Stolen FAKE rigged election!


FACT!
...and you will NEVERE remove your stain!
EVER!


Never matter how many times Commodore gary laundered and bleached his magathong and pink camo mumu:
she can NEVERE remove that stain!
That purple plastic butt plug might have helped.....
duhhuuhhuuhuu....

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It's a democratic hoax
 01/18/2021 06:39 PM
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johnnyboy

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We removed our problem. Voted him right out. By this time next week, you will be crying foul, crying to anyone who still listens to you or just plain crying while we will be enjoying a new president and democrat majorities in the house and senate.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

 01/18/2021 06:43 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

We removed our problem. Voted him right out. By this time next week, you will be crying foul, crying to anyone who still listens to you or just plain crying while we will be enjoying a new president and democrat majorities in the house and senate.


You STOLE an election with FRAUD.

You didn't vote ANYONE OUT!

FACT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 01/18/2021 06:51 PM
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nukeh2o

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Says the fat unemployed jojahstan goober.
What's that smell...

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