Bush tried to get us out of Afghanistan before his term ended. He couldn't.

Obama tried, but ended up escalating the war.

The Chosen one said he got us out of Afghanistan. He didn't. He lied.

Now biden will try to get us out by 9-11. The 20th anniversary.

So many lives lost for nothing. What was accomplished?

Russia is just waiting in the wings for us to leave.

Hopefully, biden will do it. Families will be reunited. Suicides rates will go up because of PTSD.

Why? America is not the planets police force.

Sad, really.

For harboring Al Qaida, remember them? Possibly could have been focused strikes as opposed to occupation.

Nation building is not our deal. Of course the Iraq war not needed and destabilized nations and hurt civilians. All of this a money grab for DOD and their contractors. Such a terrible cost in the lives of our fellow Americans.

Like we didn't learn this from Vietnam.

The economic means (weapons) we have to hurt are enemies are far greater and easier to use than our military.

And when we use our military we need to get over the boots in the neighborhooods/jungles concept and stick to focused/tactical aggression with drones/planes and such.

Merka's nuthin butt a bully who needs to sweep in front of its own door. Discuss,

People over the age of 15 who talk about being bullied sound like dumbasses. Discuss,

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

We know that. DuhNiper

I'm betting it has a lot to do with business.

http://www.scientificamerican....bounty-of-rare-earths/

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I was right.

Shame to lose the longest war in American history, but it was unwinnable on day one. I'd hate to be the family of one of the thousands who paid for that bullshit with their life.


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

http://youtu.be/BSzaFNiIVnY

But, then again, Israel is really starting to stir the pot with Iran. We will absolutely have no choice but to be Full In. And, that whole region will try to shit on our bed. Who's up to a new Draft?

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Dora Hates You

The war was to get revenge on Osama bin laden, and weaken Russia.
Bin Laden is dead.
Sort of worked on the second for a while, until they got their asset elected President.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 04/14/2021 at 01:41 PM by WG

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

My nephew did a tour there. His next deploy is Estonia if that gives you any idea of what might be happening. Putin playing his little games

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

In Butch's defense, we couldn't retaliate against the real attackers. We owed the Saudi's too much money.

Edited: 04/14/2021 at 04:38 PM by SlimyBritches

Yeah...but your ok with those assholes that killed them walking over our southern border un-checked!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

IMPOSSIBLE. the chosen one built a wall. mexico paid for it. Or did he lie again?


those are very small and smelly fish. do they prove your manlyness?
or smellyness...

Edited: 04/14/2021 at 10:19 PM by sandi

Yep, the natural rssources def are there - and well documented BUT left in the dark.. Hmmm. Is 'shame' finally playing a part? Nahhh.. Plan 'B'?

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There are NO white people at all in the Bible... take all the time you need with that...
Please stop feeding the trolls - they will go away if you do...

China will try their plan there like they have in Africa. Huge loans for infrastructure that get paid back for centuries. They will loan them the money, the money will pay their companies and engineers with promise to hire local labor, which will happen in numbers to insignificant to help their economy. And once China monopolizes those rare earth metals, they will starve their competitors.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.