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 04/14/2021 09:24 AM
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Greensleeves

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oh but all Qotards are conspiracy minded. As for qspang's assertion I watched the shot go in my arm.

the qotards have transitioned from insurrectionists to whiner half men. It's like the Obama days all over again.

Other things they did:
Pulled all their money out of the stock market
Hid their weapons from the g-men coming for them
Got suicide pills ready in case Kamala becomes President
Sent more money to stop the steal
 04/14/2021 09:43 AM
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1) They will pause any vaccine long enough to evaluate if unexpected, serious side effects occur.

2) The goal is to prevent unnecessary deaths. There is an available workaround (Pfizer, Moderna) available to use while the J&J situation is evaluated.

3) Although you need to prevent COVID-19, you also need to prevent blood clots. Both can cause death. Re-read (2).

4) Any of the shots will generate an immune response. If you recall, they identified a hyper-response as one of the contributors to severe COVID-19 illness. Blood clots in many parts of the body have been complications of infection by the virus. If blood clots have been detected in the brain, it's reasonable to think there have been blood clots elsewhere that are still underdetected/underreported.

If J&J's process generates an immune response more like exposure to the real virus than the mRNA vaccines generate, it might be reasonable to hypothesize that J&J vaccine causes blood clots by the same mechanism as the real virus.

While they further study the J&J vaccine, they might start evaluating whether it's safe to continue in conjunction with various types of blood thinner(s).
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Some people are tougher than others. I would bet that a lot of the progs on here would be screaming like little school girls when the shot is adminiistered, and get the vapors thereafter.



Pharmacist tried to give me a Band-Aid buy I snarled "ain't got time to bleed!"


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 04/15/2021 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by: CurtisEflush

1) They will pause any vaccine long enough to evaluate if unexpected, serious side effects occur.



2) The goal is to prevent unnecessary deaths. There is an available workaround (Pfizer, Moderna) available to use while the J&J situation is evaluated.



3) Although you need to prevent COVID-19, you also need to prevent blood clots. Both can cause death. Re-read (2).



4) Any of the shots will generate an immune response. If you recall, they identified a hyper-response as one of the contributors to severe COVID-19 illness. Blood clots in many parts of the body have been complications of infection by the virus. If blood clots have been detected in the brain, it's reasonable to think there have been blood clots elsewhere that are still underdetected/underreported.



If J&J's process generates an immune response more like exposure to the real virus than the mRNA vaccines generate, it might be reasonable to hypothesize that J&J vaccine causes blood clots by the same mechanism as the real virus.



While they further study the J&J vaccine, they might start evaluating whether it's safe to continue in conjunction with various types of blood thinner(s).


Exactly.



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 04/15/2021 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by: CurtisEflush


2) The goal is to prevent unnecessary deaths. There is an available workaround (Pfizer, Moderna) available to use while the J&J situation is evaluated.



Kind of interesting when birth control pills present a 2000 times higher number of blood clots than the J&J Vaccine.

When did they halt birth control?

"the FDA posted data showing that if 10,000 women using birth control pills were checked, 3 to 9 would develop a blood clot."

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Cole

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It's a different clot that isn't treated the same.

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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

It's a different clot that isn't treated the same.


They can ALL KILL YOU!

MORON!

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Edited: 04/15/2021 at 10:17 AM by Fish Killer
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hey qish you have no credibility. Don't you still believe the election was a fraud? It wasn't so u suq.
 04/15/2021 12:13 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



It's a different clot that isn't treated the same.




They can ALL KILL YOU!



MORON!


And they can even be more dangerous when incorrectly treated.



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 04/15/2021 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer


A blanket response to the above:

 04/15/2021 12:34 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: Cole







It's a different clot that isn't treated the same.








They can ALL KILL YOU!







MORON!




And they can even be more dangerous when incorrectly treated.


What does that even mean!

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the FACT that 6 cases have happened with ONE fatality and in NONE of the cxases do they KNOW that it was caused by the J&J vaccine!

SOOOOO....WHAT THE FUCK IS REALLY GOING ON...COLESLAW...

CAUSE IT SURE THE FUCK ISN'T BLOOD CLOTS!

DIPSHIT!

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 04/15/2021 01:06 PM
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There are similarities between the JJ and the Astra in Europe and that is what they are trying to iron out. It's a short pause to let the smart people figure some things out.

Why do you care that it's been paused, you don't plan on getting it anyway?

And why is halting the JJ now a conspiracy? What makes it different from the other two? Would you be freaking out if they paused the Phizer?

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 04/15/2021 02:08 PM
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I just can't understand how, or why, you Dolts think any of this has anything to do with Trump or Biden.

I had a guy give me the ", , , , , aint going to get it because it is a conspiracy by Bill Gates, et al, to put "nanotechnology" trackers in to us. Hey, you stupid shit, it it was that easy they would have already got the trackers into you with your Bud Light!

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 04/15/2021 02:14 PM
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Cole

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I just can't understand how, or why, you Dolts think any of this has anything to do with Trump or Biden.

That's my thinking too.

I'm a Liberal and don't see any political difference at all. Why has the JJ all of a sudden become another pawn in the Yea-But wars? That's why I asked if they would be freaking out if one of the others was put on pause.

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 04/15/2021 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole

There are similarities between the JJ and the Astra in Europe and that is what they are trying to iron out. It's a short pause to let the smart people figure some things out.



Why do you care that it's been paused, you don't plan on getting it anyway?



And why is halting the JJ now a conspiracy? What makes it different from the other two? Would you be freaking out if they paused the Phizer?


The J&J vaccine is the ONLY one that is a standard vaccine.

It is done in one shot.

The other vaccines take two shots.

The J&J vaccine is NOT an mRna vaccine.

FOOL!

Do you see a MARKETING issue here?:

You know...who is PAYING for the vaccine...and who is making all the FUCKING MONEY???

FOR YOUR ANSWER LOOK HERE...DIPSHIT! :

http://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15...-within-12-months.html

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Edited: 04/15/2021 at 08:53 PM by Fish Killer
 04/16/2021 04:56 AM
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Cole

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Who says the JJ won't need a booster too?

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 04/16/2021 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole I just can't understand how, or why, you Dolts think any of this has anything to do with Trump or Biden. That's my thinking too. I'm a Liberal and don't see any political difference at all. Why has the JJ all of a sudden become another pawn in the Yea-But wars? That's why I asked if they would be freaking out if one of the others was put on pause.
JJ got paused because disinformation agents caused hysteria around a few possible cases of vaccine injury. Pause happened out of an abundance of caution to see if the vaccine really caused injury and because people were getting hysterical. Disinformation agents are now using the pause that they caused to push additional disinfo conspiracy theories about why the pause happened. It is all about doubt and chaos.

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 04/16/2021 05:10 AM
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With the petri dishes of uncontrolled spread in right wing places like Brazil the virus is getting extra opportunity to mutate as it replicates and replicates. Thanks to that, the vaccines are all going to have to be updates. And yes, standard vaccines generally need boosted.

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 04/16/2021 05:16 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: Cole Who says the JJ won't need a booster too?
JJ said back in February that their shot might have to be annual like the flu shot. It is in the article he linked.

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 04/16/2021 05:59 AM
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Haven't all of the manufacturers been saying that they aren't sure how long these vaccines will provide antibodies?

If people have to get these shots once or twice a year, I don't see people going along with it. Since the vaccine has opened up to the younger population, it has been noticed that younger people are being hit much harder by side affects. Just Wednesday of this week, I was walking into Walgreens across from Paradise and saw a guy who appeared to be in his mid-20s being escorted out of the store due to a bad reaction he was having to the vaccine. His grandfather picked him up and he just left his car in the parking lot.

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