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It worked for Donald Trump!

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 04/16/2021 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

It worked for Donald Trump!


If you call having a pandemic to pay for Trump's fault.....then maybe so.

The problem with that SHIT is that it's Fauci's fault!

He is solely responsible for the pandemic!

FACT!

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 04/16/2021 10:59 AM
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If you call having a pandemic to pay for Trump's fault.....then maybe so.

Wrong.

$5 trillion in 3.4 years.


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 04/16/2021 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

If you call having a pandemic to pay for Trump's fault.....then maybe so.



Wrong.



$5 trillion in 3.4 years.


PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE!!!!!!

MORON!

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 04/16/2021 11:05 AM
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6.7 trillion. WTF does percentage have to do with anything?

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 04/16/2021 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

6.7 trillion. WTF does percentage have to do with anything?


You're valuation is BULLSHIT!

YOU HAVE NO WAY TO COMPARE THAT TO ANY OTHER PRESIDENT!

YOUR SPEWED NUMBERS ARE GRADE A BULLSHIT!

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 04/16/2021 11:11 AM
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Of course you do. You take the total debt, then factor in cost of living for that time period.

Trump's debt is added to the whole and that in turn lessens his percentage. That's an idiotic method of deduction.

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 04/16/2021 11:12 AM
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Swap Trump for Obama's first four years and what percentage do you get?

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 04/16/2021 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Of course you do. You take the total debt, then factor in cost of living for that time period.



Trump's debt is added to the whole and that in turn lessens his percentage. That's an idiotic method of deduction.


The dollars of today are NOT the dollars of lets say President Roosevelts day...now are they?

The percentage of debt he added needs to be calculated by what debt there WAS BACK THEN!

FUCKING IDIOT!



Hell no!

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 04/16/2021 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Swap Trump for Obama's first four years and what percentage do you get?


Soooo...when are you going to argue with the Government Office of Management and budget?

Are you going to say that their way of comparing Presidential Debt is WRONG?

You do know that Biden is in control now right?

HE says that YOU are wrong!

BWAHAHAHA!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 04/16/2021 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Of course you do. You take the total debt, then factor in cost of living for that time period.



Trump's debt is added to the whole and that in turn lessens his percentage. That's an idiotic method of deduction.

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 04/16/2021 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Cole



Of course you do. You take the total debt, then factor in cost of living for that time period.







Trump's debt is added to the whole and that in turn lessens his percentage. That's an idiotic method of deduction.


You don't know what the FUCK you are talking about!

When are you going to tell the Whitehouse thast they dont know SHIT?!?!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
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then factor in cost of living for that time period.


I.E. a dollar was worth more then that now.

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 04/16/2021 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

then factor in cost of living for that time period.





I.E. a dollar was worth more then that now.


Tell your SHIT to the Whitehouse!

THEY SAY YOUR WRONG!

FOOL!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/

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It's a random stat of a percentage of the over-all debt.

Out of the three terms, Obama's first and second and Trump's one, who had the highest total number? That is the statistic that matters.

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 04/16/2021 11:36 AM
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You do understand that Trump's number is for three years and not four, don't you?

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 04/16/2021 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

You do understand that Trump's number is for three years and not four, don't you?


YO...SHIT FOR BRAINS...GET BETTER THAN A #rd GRADE EDUCATION!

MORON!

US Debt by President by Dollar and Percentage
Who increased the U.S. debt the most? Depends on how you measure it
Table of Contents
Debt Calculation Drawbacks
Measuring Presidential Debt
Biggest Debt Increases by President
U.S. Debt Increase by Fiscal Year
BY KIMBERLY AMADEO REVIEWED BY
JANET BERRY-JOHNSON
Updated April 06, 2021
Top Five Contributors to US Debt
The Balance / Julie Bang

What's the best way to determine how much each president has contributed to our nation's $28 trillion in U.S. debt? The most popular ways to do so involve comparing the debt level from when a president enters office to the debt level when they leave, and comparing the debt as a percentage of economic output, which takes into account the size of the economy at the time the administration accumulated the debt.12

Debt Calculation Drawbacks
Neither of the techniques mentioned above are very accurate ways to measure each president's debt because the president doesn't have much control over the debt added during their first year in office.

For example, President Donald Trump took office in January 2017. He submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.3

While the time lag makes it seem confusing, Congress intentionally set it up this way. An advantage of the federal fiscal year is that it gives the new president time to put together their budget during their first months in office.

The Best Way to Measure Debt by President
The best way to measure a president's debt is to add up their budget deficits and compare that total to the debt level when they took office. A president's budget reveals their administration's priorities. The deficit by president reveals how much deficit was in each year's budget.

Though they sound similar, a deficit and debt are two different things. A deficit is a budget shortfall, whereas debt is the running total of deficits and surpluses.

The Top Five Debt Contributors by Percentage
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945): President Roosevelt had the largest percentage increase to the debt. Although he only added $236 billion, this was a nearly 1,050% increase from the $22.5 billion debt level left by President Herbert Hoover. The Great Depression and the New Deal contributed to FDR's yearly deficits, but the biggest cost was World War II: It added $186.3 billion to the debt between 1942 and 1945.4

Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921): President Wilson was the second-largest contributor to the debt, percentage-wise. He added $21 billion, which was a 724% increase over the $2.9 billion debt of his predecessor. World War I contributed to the deficits that raised the national debt.5

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989): President Reagan increased the debt by $1.85 trillion, or by 186%. Reagan's brand of supply-side economics didn't grow the economy enough to offset the lost revenue from its tax cuts. Reagan also increased the defense budget by 35%.6

George W. Bush (2001-2009): President Bush added $6.1 trillion, or a 101% increase, putting him in fourth. Bush launched the War on Terror in response to the 9/11 attacks, which led to multi-trillion-dollar spending on the War in Afghanistan and the Iraq War.Bush also dealt with the 2001 recession and the 2008 financial crisis.7


Barack Obama (2009-2017): Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise ($8.6 trillion) but was fifth in terms of percentage: 74%. Obama fought the Great Recession with an $831 billion economic stimulus package and added $858 billion through tax cuts.78


U.S. Debt Increase by President for Every Fiscal Year Since 1914
The U.S. Treasury Department has historical tables that report the annual U.S. debt for each fiscal year since 1790.5 We've complied data from that source to create the figures used below.

Donald Trump: As of the end of FY 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt since Obama's last budget, a 33.1% increase due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) predicted that the pandemic would raise the FY 2020 deficit by $2.2 trillion and the FY 2021 deficit by $0.6 trillion.9

In his FY 2021 budget, Trump's budget includes a $966 billion deficit.10

FY 2020 - $4.226 trillion
FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion
Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 73.6% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush's last budget in 2009.

FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion
FY 2013 - $672 billion
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion
FY 2009 - $253 billion. Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion.11
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. This was Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act.
FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion
FY 2007 - $501 billion
FY 2006 - $574 billion
FY 2005 - $553 billion
FY 2004 - $596 billion
FY 2003 - $555 billion
FY 2002 - $421 billion
Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 31.6% increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget.

FY 2001 - $133 billion
FY 2000 - $18 billion
FY 1999 - $130 billion
FY 1998 - $113 billion
FY 1997 - $189 billion
FY 1996 - $251 billion
FY 1995 - $281 billion
FY 1994 - $281 billion
George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54% increase from the $2.857 trillion debt at the end of Reagan's last budge.

FY 1993 - $347 billion
FY 1992 - $399 billion
FY 1991 - $432 billion
FY 1990 - $376 billion
Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, a 186% increase from the $997.8 billion debt at the end of Carter's last budget.

FY 1989 - $255 billion
FY 1988 - $252 billion
FY 1987 - $225 billion
FY 1986 - $302 billion
FY 1985 - $251 billion
FY 1984 - $195 billion
FY 1983 - $235 billion
FY 1982 - $145 billion
Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 42.7% increase from the $698.8 billion debt at the end of Ford's last budget.

FY 1981 - $90.1 billion
FY 1980 - $81.1 billion
FY 1979 - $54.9 billion
FY 1978 - $72.7 billion
Gerald Ford: Added $223.7 billion, a 47.1% increase from the $475 billion debt at the end of Nixon's last budget.

FY 1977 - $78.4 billion
FY 1976 - $87.2 billion
FY 1975 - $58.1 billion
Richard Nixon: Added $121.3 billion, a 34.3% increase from the $353.7 billion debt at the end of President Johnson's last budget.

FY 1974 - $16.9 billion
FY 1973 - $30.8 billion
FY 1972 - $29.1 billion
FY 1971 - $27.2 billion
FY 1970 - $17.1 billion
Lyndon B. Johnson: Added $42 billion, a 13% increase from the $312 billion debt at the end of President Kennedy's last budget, FY 1964.

FY 1969 - $6.1 billion
FY 1968 - $21.3 billion
FY 1967 - $6.3 billion
FY 1966 - $2.6 billion
FY 1965 - $5.5 billion
John F. Kennedy: Added $23 billion, an 7.8% increase from the $288.9 billion debt at the end of Eisenhower's last budget.

FY 1964 - $5.8 billion
FY 1963 - $7.6 billion
FY 1962 - $9.2 billion
Dwight Eisenhower: Added $22.8 billion, a 8.6% increase from the $266 billion debt at the end of Truman's last budget.

FY 1961 - $2.6 billion
FY 1960 - $1.6 billion
FY 1959 - $8.3 billion
FY 1958 - $5.8 billion
FY 1957 - $2.2 billion surplus
FY 1956 - $1.6 billion surplus
FY 1955 - $3.1 billion
FY 1954 - $5.1 billion
Harry Truman: Added $7.3 billion, a 2.8% increase from the $258.6 billion debt at the end of President Roosevelt's last budget.

FY 1953 - $6.9 billion
FY 1952 - $3.8 billion
FY 1951 - $2.1 billion surplus
FY 1950 - $4.5 billion
FY 1949 - $478 million surplus
FY 1948 - $6 billion surplus
FY 1947 - $11 billion surplus
FY 1946 - $10.7 billion
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Added $236 billion, a 1,048% increase from the $22.5 billion debt at the end of Hoover's last budget.

FY 1945 - $57.6 billion
FY 1944 - $64.3 billion
FY 1943 - $64.2 billion
FY 1942 - $23.4 billion
FY 1941 - $6 billion
FY 1940 - $2.5 billion
FY 1939 - $3.2 billion
FY 1938 - $740 million
FY 1937 - $2.6 billion
FY 1936 - $5 billion
FY 1935 - $1.6 billion
FY 1934 - $4.5 billion
Herbert Hoover: Added $5.6 billion, a 33% increase from the $17 billion debt at the end of Coolidge's last budget.

FY 1933 - $3 billion
FY 1932 - $2.8 billion
FY 1931 - $616 million
FY 1930 - $746 million surplus
Calvin Coolidge: Subtracted $5.2 billion from the debt, a roughly 24% decrease from the $22 billion debt at the end of Harding's last budget.

FY 1929 - $673 billion surplus
FY 1928 - $907 million surplus
FY 1927 - $1.1 billion surplus
FY 1926 - $873 million surplus
FY 1925 - $734 million surplus
FY 1924 - $1 billion surplus
Warren G. Harding: Subtracted $1.6 billion from the debt, a 6.6% decrease from the $24 billion debt at the end of Wilson's last budget.

FY 1923 - $614 million surplus
FY 1922 - $1 billion surplus
Woodrow Wilson: Added $21 billion to the debt, a 722% increase from the $2.9 billion debt at the end of Taft's last budget, FY 1913.

FY 1921 - $1.9 billion surplus
FY 1920 - $1.4 billion surplus
FY 1919 - $12.8 billion
FY 1918 - $9.8 billion
FY 1917 - $2.1 billion
FY 1916 - $551 million
FY 1915 - $146 million
FY 1914 - $0 (slight surplus)

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 04/16/2021 01:53 PM
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FY 2020 - $4.226 trillion
FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion

The total of those three years is $7.061 trillion

The chart you posted says Trump's total is $6.7 trillion, so which is it?

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