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RustyTruck

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Congratulations and best of luck to the new socialist president of Peru, Pedro Castillo. This is a victory of the working people over the interests over the capitalist mine owners.

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 06/09/2021 08:45 AM
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Best to wish luck to the people. They are the ones who are going to need it. On the bright side, it shouldn't take long for Peruvians to start heading to the U.S. Like refugee Venezuelans and Cubans, they will vote for Republicans.

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 06/09/2021 08:47 AM
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This is fantastic news! The people of Peru should have a solid 2-3 years to get their dogs as fat as possible, so when they have no choice but to eat them, the dogs can sustain a family for as long as possible.

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The refugees we have coming are from the countries where the US propped up criminal right wing authoritarians who destroyed the countries. You're talking about the people who stepped off private jets because Castro and Chavez freed the family slaves.

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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck The refugees we have coming are from the countries where the US propped up criminal right wing authoritarians who destroyed the countries. You're talking about the people who stepped off private jets because Castro and Chavez freed the family slaves.
Only people are still coming from both Cuba and Venzuela any time they get a chance. Perhaps, our colonialism turned them off of dog meat and they are coming here for different fare?

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RustyTruck

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A whole hell of a lot more people are coming from Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala fleeing the failed corrupt capitalist governments. Neo-colonialism didn't feed them well enough to stay.


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 06/09/2021 10:22 AM
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We did make a mess of Mexico down to the Amazon.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy We did make a mess of Mexico down to the Amazon.
Not we, you. I didn't vote for Chavez or support Castro or any of those other commies.

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RustyTruck

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...hange_in_Latin_America

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 06/09/2021 03:06 PM
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nukeh2o

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The poor folks in Peru....my favorite Latin American country.
This will not bode well for them.
Enough right wing totalitarian fascism can make Venezuelan style socialism seem like a viable option.
It isnt.

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Edited: 06/09/2021 at 03:08 PM by nukeh2o
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Cole

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Did Trump fix Venezuela? lol

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 06/10/2021 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by: nukeh2o The poor folks in Peru....my favorite Latin American country. This will not bode well for them. Enough right wing totalitarian fascism can make Venezuelan style socialism seem like a viable option. It isnt.
That is exactly the problem. When the right wing fascists completely break shit then the socialists get their chance to take over.

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RiddleMe

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When I was in Peru two years ago, Lima was overflowing with people that fled Venezuela. This probably went over well with them.
 06/10/2021 05:40 AM
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Bolivia did very well with socialist leaders, so much so that after a brief taste of a virtual US and OAS backed coupe they voted the socialists back in, and now the right wing interim leader Jeanine Anez is under arrest for corruption.

Latin America has had enough of US corporate backed right wing terror. It's all on the record now for anyone who wants to read about it. But still the knee jerk reaction against anything that might place government in the role of improving the material conditions of the working class. Some of you guys have been well trained.

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 06/10/2021 11:52 AM
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The CIA and their covert anticommunist assassination's with the follow up puppets we propped up since the 70's just may have contributed to the problem.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

The CIA and their covert anticommunist assassination's with the follow up puppets we propped up since the 70's just may have contributed to the problem.


the old CIA anti communist pro narcotic circle jerk of mysteries lol

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 06/10/2021 12:07 PM
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theglide

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The surf can get good and big in Peru.

Edit: Good Peruvian big wave surfer back in the 60's, Felipe Pomar.

Edited: 06/10/2021 at 12:22 PM by theglide
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So how did the CA 'Banana Republics' concept work out? Refugees?? Hmmm... Yep, that 'experiment' didn't work in Cuba either - remember the good old Batista days etc.. and the ensuing Cuban 'refugees' .. Yep, the spoilt rotten Batista boys fled to Miami with their loot and have been griping about 'their' 'lost' real estate ever since... bwaaaaaaa bwaaaaa!!! ... BUT nowadays it's a different type of 'refugee' knocking at the door - the poor type, not the land theifs..... The only CA that I have gone to, and feel relatively safe in (quite a few times), is CR.. The others to the north I frankly don't feel that comfortable going to because of our 'history' in the region... May try Panama one day.. Wherever we meddle and buy off the crooked politicians, it's just a matter of time before they are 'ousted' by a truly 'popular' - 'one man / one vote' election 'concept'.. Where the fuck did that truly democratic 'concept' come from? Wonder why they don't have an "electorial college"? WTF!!! Thought that they were 'third world'... more advanced than us..

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Edited: 06/10/2021 at 01:19 PM by surfsail
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dup post...

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Edited: 06/10/2021 at 01:18 PM by surfsail
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: surfsail So how did the CA 'Banana Republics' concept work out? Refugees?? Hmmm... Yep, that 'experiment' didn't work in Cuba either - remember the good old Batista days etc.. and the ensuing Cuban 'refugees' .. Yep, the spoilt rotten Batista boys fled to Miami with their loot and have been griping about 'their' 'lost' real estate ever since... bwaaaaaaa bwaaaaa!!! ... BUT nowadays it's a different type of 'refugee' knocking at the door - the poor type, not the land theifs..... The only CA that I have gone to, and feel relatively safe in (quite a few times), is CR.. The others to the north I frankly don't feel that comfortable going to because of our 'history' in the region... May try Panama one day.. Wherever we meddle and buy off the crooked politicians, it's just a matter of time before they are 'ousted' by a truly 'popular' - 'one man / one vote' election 'concept'.. Where the fuck did that truly democratic 'concept' come from? Wonder why they don't have an "electorial college"? WTF!!! Thought that they were 'third world'... more advanced than us..
I bet the Cubans would take back Batista in a second. Hell, I'd take him over Dementia Joe.

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