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Topic Title: New mask guidelines are about politics and control
Topic Summary: You will wear them...BECAUSE WE SAY SO!
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New mask guidelines are about politics and control
No one is fighting for the rights of those who don't want the vaccine
July 27, 2021
Tucker Carlson

Strong regimes are a lot like strong people. They're self-confident. Because they are, they're rational and moderate. They can afford to be those things. They have unquestioned legitimacy. Admitting honest mistakes doesn't threaten them. Why would it? They can tell the truth without fear. Strong regimes are marked by cheerfulness and an open-minded spirit. You know them when you see them. They're easy to recognize.

Weakness has the opposite effect. Weak leaders live in terror. They lie constantly. They admit nothing. They rule by force because they have no choice. They have lost their legitimacy. When they begin to lose control, as they inevitably do, they panic. Unable to acknowledge the magnitude of their failure, they retreat into delusion. Their behavior becomes irrational. They start to issue bizarre commands.

Nicolai Ceausescu barked orders at his guards as they dragged him into the courtyard to be shot. In his final moments on earth, Ceausescu seemed convinced he could make his executioners obey. As his power evaporated, he tried even harder to exert it. So in that way, every collapsing regime is the same. With that in mind, we learned today that in the face of the waning pandemic, the Biden administration will dramatically increase COVID restrictions across the country.

Millions of children will now be required to cover their faces in school - this despite the scientifically established fact that masks pose a far greater threat to children than COVID does. Strictly speaking, as a scientific matter, this is lunacy. But there's more.

According to an announcement by the CDC this afternoon, the administration will force masks on adults as well - including on people who've already been vaccinated. Pause to consider this for a moment. Americans were promised that if they took the vaccines, they could have their lives back. So by the millions, they did that. Now they've learned in the clearest possible way that they were lied to. They got their shots, but the Biden Administration has decided to continue to control what they wear, where they go and who they talk to. Why are they doing that? What's happening here, exactly?

A rational person might conclude there must be something very wrong with the vaccines. Maybe they don't work as intended. But no. The administration assures us that the vaccines work perfectly. They're miracle drugs. OK. So why the masks? Peter Doocy of Fox News asked that question in the White House briefing today. Here's how the Biden administration's own Baghdad Bob responded:

DOOCY: If it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated still, then why vaccinated people need to put the masks back on?

JEN PSAKI: ...If you are vaccinated, it can save your life. And I think the clear data shows that this pandemic is killing, is hospitalizing, is making people very sick who are not vaccinated. Does that still continue to be the case regardless of what the mask guidance looks like?

PETER DOOCY: If vaccines work...why do people who've had the vaccine need to wear masks the same as people who have not had it.

PSAKI: Because the public health leaders in our administration have made the determination, based on data, that is a way to make sure they are protected, their loved ones are protected, and that's an extra step given the transmissibility of the virus.

So the vaccines work, the only people getting sick are the unvaccinated, but the vaccinated still have to wear masks. Why is that?

You just read it. Quote: "public health leaders in our administration have made the determination." In other words, because we said so. That's the medical justification for suffocating your third grader with a paper mask forever. "Public health leaders in the administration have made the determination." They issue the rule, without explaining it. You then obey it. If you question it, CNN calls you a murderer. That's how our government works.

Watching that exchange, you realize that every moment in time is just a point on a continuum. That's worth remembering now. It's easy to assume that because this is all happening live at the White House, it's the way things are and will always be. But in fact, a moment this absurd can't last for long. It's too irrational. The people making the decisions are too discredited, too transparently unwise. What you're watching is a decaying system based on presumed expertise finally reach its ugly end-stage. At some point, it will be gone, because it has no legitimacy. Whatever comes next will be very different from what we're living through now. That's sad to think about, and scary, though there's also the hope of improvement, which all good people pray for. But in the meantime, we live with the growing certainty that crazy people are running our country.

If we had sane leaders, they'd acknowledge the science, which is clear. Millions of Americans who've already recovered from COVID don't need the vaccine. They have natural immunity to the virus. Nor are people who've been vaccinated at meaningful risk from people who haven't been vaccinated, despite the noisy hysteria claiming otherwise.

REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS SLAM CDC FOR UPDATED MASK REQUIREMENTS: 'NOT GROUNDED IN REALITY'

A big study this month in the New England Journal of Medicine showed that COVID vaccines offer a high level of protection against even the new delta variant of the virus. That's the science of it. If you're vaccinated, you're protected, just as they claim.

So, a rational public health policy would look entirely different from the one the Biden administration is now embarking on. A rational administration would make vaccines available to anyone who wants one, and leave the rest of the population alone to live their lives - like they used to do in America back when it was a free country.

But that's hardly what the Biden Administration is doing. There's no political advantage in a rational policy like that. Instead, the administration has decided to use the virus to cement its political control of the country. Democrats rode COVID to victory last November, through fear and blame and brand new methods of voting. They plan to keep power through next year's midterms in the very same way - by dividing Americans against one another, vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.

As a political strategy, this makes sense. Every moment TV anchors are yelling at rural conservatives for not believing in science, the rest of us aren't talking about how the permanent establishment in Washington funded ghoulish experiments that allowed the Chinese military to create the virus in the first place. It's clever. It's also incredibly ugly.

Last week a Black man in his 30s died from COVID in California. The media soon discovered that the man was an avid Christian, and had once questioned vaccines in a social media post. Immediately, they gloated over his death. "He deserved it!" That was the theme of countless news stories that ran in papers around the world.

But hold on a second. Since when do we treat death and disease this way? Do MSNBC anchors attack people with syphilis or AIDS, on the grounds they've been sexually promiscuous and therefore deserve to suffer? When someone dies of Hepatitis C, does CNN editorialize about the evils of intravenous drug use? Do reporters attack Native Americans for dying of cirrhosis of the liver at a higher rate than everyone else? Of course not. There's no political advantage in that. But there's a huge advantage in claiming that only Republicans question vaccines, and the pandemic is their fault. So they say it, day and night. Conservatives are the reason people are dying. This was MSNBC yesterday morning:

MSNBC GUEST: This is months and months of anti-science, anti-vaccine aggression coming from far-right elements of the Republican Party. You saw it play out at the CPAC conference where they said this is nothing more than an effort for power and control and they're going to force vaccines on us and take away our bibles and our guns and all of that disinformation - meaning deliberate misinformation - came out of CPAC and the conservative news outlets.

Consider the cost of rhetoric like this. If you wanted Americans to believe their doctors - and if you cared about the country, you would want that - you probably wouldn't put a porky little partisan like that on television with an "MD" after his name. Dr. Hotez does not inspire confidence in our medical establishment. He destroys confidence. Hotez is lying, openly, and because he can't control himself, he's gratuitously attacking Christianity as he does it. Only right-wing religious nuts with their Bibles worry about vaccine mandates. That's what he told MSNBC viewers. Except that's not true.

America is in fact getting vaccine mandates. We're not making that up. It's fact. On Thursday, the president of the United States will announce that all federal employees will be required to get the shot, regardless of whether they have active antibodies. This is not a small development. The federal government is the largest workforce in the world. It employs close to three million people, so an awful lot of lives will be affected by this. Back in December, Joe Biden assured us nothing like this would ever happen.

DOOCY: Do you think COVID vaccines should be mandatory?

BIDEN: No, I don't think should be mandatory. I wouldn't demand it be mandatory, but I would do everything in my power. It's like I don't think masks have to be made mandatory nationwide. I will do everything in my power as President of the United States to encourage people to do the right thing and when they do it, demonstrate that it matters.

I wouldn't demand mandatory vaccines, or masks, Biden said. Now he's demanding just that. So you have to ask yourself, what changed? Has the pandemic become much worse? No, it hasn't. In the months since Biden said that, more than a hundred million Americans have been vaccinated against COVID. You'd think the administration would be celebrating, maybe even taking a victory lap. But they're not doing that. Hardly. They seem angrier and more demanding than ever. More determined to single out Americans on the basis of their health status and denounce them. That should tell you something. We've long ago left the realm of public health.

Dan Bongino: 'If masks work, why haven't they worked?'Video
This is about politics and social control. The Biden Administration has decided it owns your body. The media agree with that. If the rest of us allow that grotesque claim to go unchallenged, we're in deep trouble going forward, for generations, long after COVID recedes, and it will at some point.

American citizens should never be forced to take medicine they don't want. Period. Government should never require people to submit to any medical procedure, whether it's sterilization or frontal lobotomies, or COVID vaccinations. Most Americans still believe this. It is a foundational belief in this country. Every poll shows it. The majority in both parties believe it.

So who is defending the people who believe that? No one on Capitol Hill is defending them. No one in the think tanks in Washington is defending them. Even the supposed libertarian think tanks that believe in freedom. Instead, professional Republicans have decided to ignore the topic. Instead, as usual, they've completely internalized the slurs of their enemies. They seem anxious to prove they're not Neanderthals, not like those morons in rural America who vote for them, send their contributions, make their jobs possible. No, we're totally different, we're enlightened, we believe in science. You see them saying that all over television, reading Pfizer's talking points and telling us how great the vaccines are.

That's fine. If you want the vaccine, go ahead and take it. We support that, most do. But what about the people who don't want the vaccine. Who's standing up for them? If Republicans can't even do that - if they can't even defend science and fight mandatory injections - then why bother to have a Republican Party? Why not spare the rest of us the indignity, sign off Twitter for good, and take a job at Quiznos. America would be much improved if they did that. Sandwich shops could use the help right now.

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 07/28/2021 05:35 AM
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Cole

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The request for the vaccinated to wear masks in public is to protect the unvaccinated.

Once again Tucker is the fool, as are you for promoting it.

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 07/28/2021 05:36 AM
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I will not be wearing a mask. I am vaccinated. If you are not and you are worried about the virus you need to wear a mask.

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 07/28/2021 09:04 AM
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The same people not wearing a mask pre-vaccine availability, not social distancing, and boycotting places that enforced mask wearing are the very same people, for the most part, that have refused to get a vaccine. Initially they chose their own selfishness over the welfare of other citizens and our economy. Then they chose not to protect themselves by getting vaccinated. I won't being a mask either, I am vaccinated.
 07/28/2021 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

I will not be wearing a mask. I am vaccinated. If you are not and you are worried about the virus you need to wear a mask.


Soooo you are admitting that Biden (and company) and Fauci (and company) are stupid fucks!

Agreed.

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 07/28/2021 10:07 AM
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I am pleasantly surprised to see some of you saying that you will be thinking for yourselves on this one.

I'm surprised the CDC would advise vaccinated individuals to wear a mask without an explanation. It seems like this could really shake people's confidence in the effectiveness of the vaccines because the only reason that vaccinated people would be at risk would be if the vaccines weren't working very well. I tend to believe that the vaccines are working and that them telling vaccinated people that they need to go back to masking is really just going to confuse people.

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 07/28/2021 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper
I'm surprised the CDC would advise vaccinated individuals to wear a mask without an explanation.


I would be surprised if they did that too, but they haven't.

 07/28/2021 10:30 AM
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If this virus is allowed to keep spreading and mutating because of these ignoramus incel goobers masks may indeed become mandatory. And more and more businesses are requiring vaccinations to have a job.
Whether they or their stupid fuk guvnor like it or not.

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 07/28/2021 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper I am pleasantly surprised to see some of you saying that you will be thinking for yourselves on this one. I'm surprised the CDC would advise vaccinated individuals to wear a mask without an explanation. It seems like this could really shake people's confidence in the effectiveness of the vaccines because the only reason that vaccinated people would be at risk would be if the vaccines weren't working very well. I tend to believe that the vaccines are working and that them telling vaccinated people that they need to go back to masking is really just going to confuse people.
I would be surprised if you were not confused by something
 07/28/2021 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole I will not be wearing a mask. I am vaccinated. If you are not and you are worried about the virus you need to wear a mask.
A lt of people who are vaccinated are getting the delta variety. You are selfish and will inevitably end up killing people. You, Cole, will have a lot to answer for when you meet your maker.

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Hey porkchop mogul, go lick some toilets and doorknobs.
The vaccines work, safe and effective. It is saving lives, and "breakthrough" cases are rare. But those people would certainly be much much sicker and possibly die if they
weren't vaccinated at all. The delta shed a 1000 times greater viral load than other variants.
Infect yo selves, eat shit and die drowning in your own bile. It'll be fun to watch.

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 07/28/2021 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Cole

I will not be wearing a mask. I am vaccinated. If you are not and you are worried about the virus you need to wear a mask.


A lt of people who are vaccinated are getting the delta variety. You are selfish and will inevitably end up killing people. You, Cole, will have a lot to answer for when you meet your maker.


The difference is that the vaccinated who get the delta strain aren't getting hospitalized and dying.

The unvaccinated are the ones begging for mercy as they lie dying in a hospital bed.

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Originally posted by: follydude
The difference is that the vaccinated who get the delta strain aren't getting hospitalized and dying.



...all 1200 of them in June in the United States.

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Cole: I will not be wearing a mask. I am vaccinated.
Numbnuts: The vaccines work, safe and effective. It is saving lives, and "breakthrough" cases are rare

Dr Fauci Drops A MOAB On The Vaccinated: 'The Viral Load ...
https://vidmax.com/video/206091-dr-fauci-drops-a...
7 hours ago · Dr Fauci Drops A MOAB On The Vaccinated: 'The Viral Load In The Vaccinated Is The Same As Unvaccinated' Watch as Dr Doom himself lets the air out of the vaccination argument. Fauci claims now that vaccinated people get the same level of Delta virus as unvaccinated people

SCIENCE says you are dead stupid wrong...

You can be carriers of a deadly virus that is killing your fellow Americans..
You have multiple times told people to mask up to prevent OTHER PEOPLE from being infected..
When the CDC tells you to mask up you better do so Or you are death dealing hypocrites...


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 07/29/2021 06:22 AM
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We are watching the CDC, Fauci, and the Biden administration completely wreck the country's confidence in the CDC. They have all played a part in politicizing medicine and our country will be worse off for it.

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 07/29/2021 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by: somebodyelse

Cole: I will not be wearing a mask. I am vaccinated.

Numbnuts: The vaccines work, safe and effective. It is saving lives, and "breakthrough" cases are rare



Dr Fauci Drops A MOAB On The Vaccinated: 'The Viral Load ...

https://vidmax.com/video/206091-dr-fauci-drops-a...

7 hours ago · Dr Fauci Drops A MOAB On The Vaccinated: 'The Viral Load In The Vaccinated Is The Same As Unvaccinated' Watch as Dr Doom himself lets the air out of the vaccination argument. Fauci claims now that vaccinated people get the same level of Delta virus as unvaccinated people



SCIENCE says you are dead stupid wrong...



You can be carriers of a deadly virus that is killing your fellow Americans..

You have multiple times told people to mask up to prevent OTHER PEOPLE from being infected..

When the CDC tells you to mask up you better do so Or you are death dealing hypocrites...


None of you wore a mask, none of you are vaccinated, social distancing is no longer a thing in your crowd, none of you are going to wear a mask and yet the vaccinated to blame. lol

Dumb-asses.





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