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tpapablo

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Natural immunity.

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OBX

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Originally posted by: tpapablo Natural immunity.
"Trust the experts"......just not the ones that disagree with the Government.

I wonder why there is no discussion about the ones with natural immunities, its like we are being told by the experts that the only answer is to get vaccinated by a "vaccine" that still won't prevent you from catching or spreading this disease. You don't think they're doubling down to hid their incompetency and/or line their pockets....do you? We're supposed to trust the Government, and trust that politicians are out for our good, not their own....right?

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tpapablo

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Trust the Dementia Joe gov't? Fat chance. Don't know about the rest of you, but I don't take direction from a senile person. Obviously progs do.

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 10/13/2021 12:46 PM
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To quote their clueless fat orange messiah/kult leader:
"I know more more than the doktuhs.....i have a very good you know whut"
duuhhhhhh.......

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Originally posted by: nukeh2o To quote their clueless fat orange messiah/kult leader: "I know more more than the doktuhs.....i have a very good you know whut" duuhhhhhh.......
Here's a question for you, Nuke. If the fat orange messiah were in office, instead of the old senile puppet, would you take the stab without question? Or do you only blindly follow/trust every politician with a (D) at the end of their name?

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Chumpf had nothing to do with vaccine development. It was going forth all over the world already, including here. And when fatboy was finally convinced it was neccessary, he kinda semi vaguely went along with. While still talking up quack cures and spreading conspiracy lies against the vaccines. Which you and your fellow stuuuupid clueless chumpfsheep bought every word of. Much of the work was done behind the scenes, outside of his imbecilic little tangerine universe of hamberders and diet sodas.
The scientists and researchers and clinicians I trust, the world leading american infectious disease specialists and epidemiogists, declared them safe and effective after multiple clinical trials all over the world. They have managed to solve numerous other very scary fast spreading deadly diseases, with a proven track record .
As opposed to your multi bankrupted multi impeached fat orange failure of a kult leader.
Who lost because of his failure to act effectively, which would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
duuhhuuhuuuuhh.......

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At least two of the cherry-picked articles cited come from this website with "preprints" and the following disclaimer:

" Caution: Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information."

Also, obvious political agenda in the main article.

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Greensleeves

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Attention Lady Qotards... I'd get the vaccine I f Qrump wuz prez. It's just a shot you fucking cowards.
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tpapablo

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Told you. Progs are simply incapable of processing something that goes against their programming.

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 10/13/2021 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover Also, obvious political agenda in the main article.
Also, to the actual question of natural immunity that was answered a ways back in the Kentucky study: unvaxed recovered found to be about 2 to 3 times likely to get covid than vaccinated recovered. Thus it is shown solid reason to get the vaccine even if recovered from prior infection, especially if it was asymptomatic. It appears some further data has come out recently to expand upon that? https://news.yale.edu/2021/10/...ear%20future.%E2%80%9D

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nukeh2o

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Ostriches.....the next big thing.
Mims Acres is the place for me
dead livestock, toxic swamp country....
When's elon flying in for his real estate tour again piggy?

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 10/13/2021 02:00 PM
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surfsail

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Wonder why? junk science - as usual

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Natural immunity is great, but in order to get it you have to risk permanent organ damage and death.

But, someone who has recovered AND gets vaccinated is probably in the best possible immune system condition.

However, as with the vaccine, natural immunity is not permanent. At some point we have to look at long term strategies, and getting Covid every year probably isn't the best plan.

But if you want to try it, that's cool.

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 10/13/2021 02:15 PM
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surfsail

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Some links about the development backround & technology behind the Moderna & Pheiser Vaccines - from truly non-political, unbiased scientific sources...

None of the typical horse shit from the plethora of garbage websites & links found on morons cut & paste facebook 'et al' .. Won't waste my time clicking the spam links..

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/23/1016842/the-mit-scientists-behind-the-moderna-vaccine/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/05/1017366/messenger-rna-vaccines-covid-hiv/

And tips for the sane investors out there...

https://corporateinnovation.mit.edu/2021/03/02/10-breakthrough-technologies-2021/

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Edited: 10/13/2021 at 02:19 PM by surfsail

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3rdworldlover

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I read through one of the studies. The stats support the conclusion that vaccines could be prioritized for people that have not been exposed to infection. But they also show the vaccine is at least as effective as exposure to infection at preventing infection or reinfection. So, you can achieve immunity almost immediately and not be a risk to your fellow man and not die or suffer long term effect from the virus. What the study does not state or support is the claim that natural immunity is better in any way.
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Lunchmeat

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Yep you guys were 100% against the vaccine while Trump was in office as was Biden and camel toe and all the rest. As soon as Biden became president all the sudden it was his grand idea and his doing to get everybody vaccinated., Look at what a wonderful job he did it's all him! You guys are so full of shit

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 10/13/2021 02:47 PM
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surfsail

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Trash science is trash - period.. Beleive what BS you want to - and suffer the cconsequences..

Seem to remember Biden giving qrump some props for the vaccines..

Choices choices.. Darwinism at it's best...

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Edited: 10/13/2021 at 02:48 PM by surfsail

 10/13/2021 02:56 PM
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nukeh2o

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Pigblo's widdle pet kitty wrong as always.
Vaccines were developed around the scientific world. Meowmix couldn't see past the confines of his limp chumpsheep bubble though
Vaccines were highly anticipated and hoped for everywhere except in the inbred imbecile enclaves known as known as afchumpfistan.
But they don't seem to get out much....
hey chumpfbleat: best not go near any brazilian restaurants

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 10/13/2021 03:04 PM
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Lunchmeat

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English or stfu, If you really have a point to make them please by all means let's hear it

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 10/13/2021 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Lunchmeat Yep you guys were 100% against the vaccine while Trump was in office as was Biden and camel toe and all the rest. As soon as Biden became president all the sudden it was his grand idea and his doing to get everybody vaccinated., Look at what a wonderful job he did it's all him! You guys are so full of shit
Substantive rebuttals to Tpab's opening post and this is your take. Talk about being full of shit. Science says I can gain immunity from being infected or by being vaccinated. Being infected carries much higher risk than being vaccinated. Then being vaccinated on top of being infected likely provides the greatest protection against future infection. So yeah, I'm going with the data that are in so far.

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