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Topic Title: The sinister nature of electric cars Topic Summary: Created On: 12/03/2021 10:32 PM |
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Electric Cars Aren't Nearly as Green as People Think
Next time you see an electric car or a charging station, keep in mind the emissions involved in producing the battery and the electricity used to keep it running. Friday, April 26, 2019 Catherine Alles For years, I've imagined how great it would be to own an electric car. Instead of spending almost 40 bucks every week or so on gas, I could just drop by my local outpost and charge my car while I buy organic vegetables. Wouldn't that be great? Not only for myself but also for the environment? Maybe not. Although electric cars are a step in the right direction, their production and charging still contribute to CO2 levels, in some cases even more than gas cars. Shifting Emissions from the Tailpipe to Power Plant Carbon dioxide emissions don't just come out of a tailpipe. Electric cars emit CO2 both in their production and during their charging. First, the production of the electric batteries requires lithium, cobalt, and manganese. Manufactures end up expending a large amount of energy on mining and processing these raw materials. According to a new German study from researchers Christoph Buchal, Hans-Dieter Karl, and Hans-Werner Sinn, For a Tesla battery of 75 kWh, this means an additional CO2 emission of 10 875 kg to 14 625 kg of CO2. Converted to pounds, these numbers are between 23 thousand and 32 thousand pounds of carbon emissions. For each battery! Even after the initial production of the battery, many electric cars are charged by power plants that produce electricity by burning coal or gas. According to the US Energy Information Administration, 63 percent of total electricity generation in the United States is created using fossil fuels. If the electricity being used to power the electric cars is being produced using fossil fuels, then using electric cars is simply shifting CO2 emissions from the tailpipe of the car to the electricity power plant. Electricity from Fossil Fuels Around the world, different countries have different levels of dependency on fossil fuels for electricity production. For example, according to a 2017 study by Michael Sivak and Brandon Schoettle at the University of Michigan, On one extreme is Albania (which generates 100% of its electricity from hydroelectric power)... on the other extreme are Botswana and Gibraltar (which generate 100% of their electricity from coal and oil). Though electric cars may not visibly emit CO2 while driving, don't be fooled. A significant amount of CO2 emissions are produced in manufacturing the battery and in its ongoing charging. According to a 2012 Yale Study, It is counterproductive to promote EVs in regions where electricity is produced from oil, coal, and lignite combustion. Misleading Marketing Imagine if Tesla announced a new "green" airplane that ran completely on electricity. But if the production of the battery emitted tens of thousands of pounds of carbon emissions, and its charging hundreds more, would it really be green? So it is with electric cars. Next time you see an electric car or a charging station, keep in mind the emissions involved in producing the battery and the electricity used to keep it running. At the end of the day, the direct comparison between electric cars and gas cars is irrelevant. What really matters is the overall amount of carbon emissions involved in the production, charging, and driving of a car throughout its lifetime. Especially when over half of America's electricity is produced with fossil fuels, it is misleading to propose that electric cars produce "zero emissions." So next time you see an electric car or a charging station, keep in mind the emissions involved in producing the battery and the electricity used to keep it running. Outward appearances can be deceiving. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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