In Socialism, the government spends everybody's money (poor and rich) until all the money is gone and everybody is broke.

If you want socialism you should move to Venezuela. Socialism has destroyed the county and every body is moving out. I met 3 surfers from Venezuela in Sat Bch one day that are living in South Florida now and they told me how bad it is. They had to get out.
From Wikipedia:
The 2013 Venezuelan presidential election was widely disputed leading to widespread protest, which triggered another nationwide crisis that continues to this day.[17]

Venezuela is a developing country and ranks 113th on the Human Development Index. It has the world's largest known oil reserves and has been one of the world's leading exporters of oil. Previously, the country was an underdeveloped exporter of agricultural commodities such as coffee and cocoa, but oil quickly came to dominate exports and government revenues. The excesses and poor policies of the incumbent government led to the collapse of Venezuela's entire economy.[18][19] The country struggles with record hyperinflation,[20][21] shortages of basic goods,[22] unemployment,[23] poverty,[24] disease, high child mortality, malnutrition, severe crime and corruption. These factors have precipitated the Venezuelan migrant crisis where more than three million people have fled the country.[25] By 2017, Venezuela was declared to be in default regarding debt payments by credit rating agencies.[26][27] The crisis in Venezuela has contributed to a rapidly deteriorating human rights situation, including increased abuses such as torture, arbitrary imprisonment, extrajudicial killings and attacks on human rights advocates.

Surfrc, you fail to mention that Venezuela also suffers from an authoritarian regime. This is the problem with most countries that use socialist or communist systems. Look at Nordic countries. It's working pretty well there. Other countries to look at, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, and Ireland amongst some others.

So just like everything else you spout on here, pure BS.

He grew increasingly vocal and critical of the Vietnam war and economic injustice, and formed a multiracial coalition against poverty. Definitely not anything like today's Republican party that worships corporate greed and a narcissistic sociopath.

HAP,
If the Dems were ever able to change the voting rules, like they are trying, that would be the end of a two party system. The Dems would rule from then on out. The Reps party would be gone. At the point we would then be under a authoritarian regime with the radical lefts continuing to destroy our county.

So you are in favor of less rights for voting. Got it. If your party can't win on a fair ballfield then maybe it's time to rethink they are doing. Authoritarians disable voting rights, not give more power to voters. You're an idiot.

The irony is that the Republicans in plain site are arranging it so that states controlled by the GOP can over rule their own popular elections. RC is worried about the Dems taking over? The Dems can't tie their own shoe laces. The Pugs on the other hand are about to become rulers of the one party state that they convince simple folks like RC that the Dems are creating. I think we've seen the last "fair" election in this country for the foreseeable future.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Hap,
I am not for less voting rights. I am for keeping the voting system the same (run by the states), such as requiring the voter to provide an identification and to be a US citizen.
You had to through in an insult, couldn't keep it civil.

Rusty,
You are partially correct. The Reps are scared that the Dems will take over forever and the Dems are scared that the Reps will take over forever. Lets just hope neither ever happens.

We know you are an alias of one of the other folks here that have been way more than uncivil.

As far as keeping the voting system the same, there are problems with it especially the gerrymandering and the fillibuster bs.

Well then, you would be wrong. Been reading the forums for many years (mainly the surfing forum), I just rarely post anything.

Right

One is far closer than you think, and it's not the Dems. By gerrymandering they already control far more state representation than their voters should account for. That's done by carving up majority Dem areas so that they are moved into minority positions in geographically bizarre shaped districts.

Also, if they had the state power that they are giving themselves today in 2020, they would have used false claims of vote fraud to throw out the popular vote of their states and send a slate of electors chosen by the GOP state legislature, and the US Constitution doesn't prevent it.

Your right to own a gun is far more constitutionally sacred in the USA than your tenuous right to vote for president. We've just always taken it for granted that neither of the parties would go full dictator.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 01/19/2022 at 11:26 AM by RustyTruck

And that voting is far more difficult for urban and low income citizens, by design, and Republicans are still working hard at passing new rules to worsen that.

Republicans are looking to change the system by putting partisan yes people into decision making positions. They are openly looking to override the will of the people. Every state should be required to have a paper trail, that's just common sense.

RC, do you think Trump's pressure to override the decision of the people was right? Do you see threats to the sitting Vice President as legitimate? Do you think Biden won by fraud, even though there is ZERO evidence? If you do, you are the real problem here.



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