PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE

Sure, people with knives can kill people too. Are there High Capacity Knives?
How many people can someone with a knife kill at one time?

People with cars can kill people.
But not anywhere near as many as a person with a high capacity gun.

We need change people!

And, it's obviously our republican leaders who need to change.

Edited: 05/24/2022 at 04:27 PM by sandi

Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Mental illness epidemic has kids killing kids. Uvalde school shooting is only the latest

William Luther/San Antonio Expre/TNS
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram Editorial Board
Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:53 PM·

Not even two weeks ago, it was Buffalo, a horrific racist attack on innocent Black shoppers by a warped 18-year-old.

Today, it's Uvalde in South Texas, an inexplicable assault on elementary school children, perhaps as young as 7, also by a man still in his teens.

Many details remain unclear, and sweeping early conclusions are dangerous. But we know we have a mental health crisis with our youth. We know there are no easy answers. And we know we must act.

We'll fight, as we always do, over guns. We'll examine how the shooter got into the building and debate whether we can turn our schools into tighter fortresses.

We'll examine the law enforcement response, including why the Uvalde ISD's small police force wasn't able to neutralize an obvious threat. We'll dig into whether the shooter sent signals that he was capable of this and whether someone should have recognized them and acted.

We don't know yet what may have driven this particular teenager to such a heinous act. But we've known that more youths feel angry, disconnected, perhaps even hopeless. The COVID pandemic supercharged those problems. The isolation, the loss of meaningful social connection, the dependence on screens are a toxic mix when added to the inherent difficulties of adolescence.

Whatever else these mass violence events are, they are a screaming symptom of our overall epidemic of mental illness, at all ages. We must address it forthrightly.

Yes, guns must be part of the discussion. Sadly, many of the tropes that are rolled out in these circumstances are true: It was clearly far too easy for the shooter to obtain weapons. But he violated any number of laws already on the books and shouldn't have even had the handgun he used.

The U.S. is the only country to regularly suffer this kind and level of gun violence. But we don't do enough to keep guns out of the hands of those who might be dangerous.

The country is awash in guns, but the vast majority of them are legally and safely kept.

An appalling mass casualty event understandably draws attention. But American youths are quietly suffering every day, and many will harm themselves if not others.

We'll know more soon about what, if anything, could have prevented the Uvalde shooting. But we already know things we can do to help avoid more - in our families and communities, not just in our governments.

Will we do them?

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Dora Hates You

There will be another by the time this post gets to a few pages.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

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Dora Hates You

True. The stigma around mental illness is huge, but starting to fade. Many of us may know someone mentally ill. Getting that person to admit it, and into counceling can be impossible. Counceling, support from good people and meds. can help a lot. But, many parents don't want to admit there is a problem. And many mentally ill will say, "I don't have a problem. Having said that, guns are too easy to get. No training, no license, just cash and carry. Something needs to change. The gun Lobby has too much power. The repubs don't care enough about solving the problem, to DO SOMETHING. Politics first. Party first. American citizens second. Sad.

Perhaps. Why? Because the Repubs wont DO anything. Except send Hopes and prayers.

God bless America. Please.

YOU are mentally ill as well...get some help...you idiot!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Is it inevitable or is it preventable
It is preventable we know but we are ineffectual.
The mentally ill are not outliers, it's guns that are
The pro life party are coming out swinging and ready to spar
More thoughts more prayers more moments of silence
Less is more for them but there's always more violence

A study in impotence and plausible denial
The art of doing nothing American government style
Congress will get through this, doing nothing once more
It's not easy but what is for a parliament of whores.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

When one political party ignores

the regular slaughter of children

Don't call yourselves

"Pro-Life"

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GOP:

Gaslight
Obstruct
Project

Stay by for "this is no time to politicize a tragedy" and "let's give a big round of applause to our brave law enforcement heroes who took down the shooter after he only executed 20 innocent children".

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

What's better: 300 AAC Blackout or, .308/7.62 ?

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Dora Hates You

Better at what?


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

A lot of hot air complaining about a lot of hot air. All this whining is as worthless as hopes and prayers.

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

Look at this lurkmeat torch in the dark: it's hot air! Why don't you stay in the shallow end of whatever kiddie pool that works in.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Thanks, only took 10 minutes to prove my point. Instead of flapping endlessly, please tell us what needs to be done. Please tell of what actions you'll take to make a change. Are you going to write you congress person? Or are you gonna just continue to whine on 2ndlight.com like you have for the past 2 decades and continue your ineffective existence?

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

Close the gunshow loophole, trained and resgistered for high capicity assault weapons as a start etc...

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

I'm all for it

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

I've done so, but get nothing but canned responses. My recommendations in the other thread are very reasonable. The main thing is that gun manufacturers, venders and owners should be held responsible for any deaths their guns cause. This will make reasonable gun laws pop up like crazy and stop all the loop hole nonsense. Just imagine what a little accountability could do.

Edited: 05/25/2022 at 07:15 AM by HAPDigital

Ban auto-loading rifles in any caliber other than .22 LR

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

When one political party ignores

mental illness that regularly slaughters children

don't call yourselves

human

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.