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dingpatch

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I got Off of the Beaten Path yesterday and perused a few Conservative Fantasies WEB sites.

I'm stunned by all the absolute, plain-and-simple, anti Polio vaccination Idiots!

To be plain about it, , , , , it has now gotten to the point that the MAGA folks are very sure that ALL vaccinations are a Liberal World Government plot.

Well, Okay. It is your God Given Right to not be vaccinated, along with the Holy fact that it is also your right to catch "it" and then die a miserable death.

Oh and, , , , , , please don't worry about the "trackers" in the vaccines, , , , you already got your tracker from your Pabst Blue Ribbon.

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Edited: 08/14/2022 at 03:56 AM by dingpatch
 08/14/2022 04:48 AM
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StirfryMcflurry

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Be stunned, bros
 08/14/2022 07:23 AM
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surfsail

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Anyone out there know/met people affected by polio??

You have to have grey hair (or none) to answer 'yes', but believe me you don't want you or your family getting that - IF you live, the are severely 'affected' for th rest of your life.

Whatever happened to the mandatory 'DPT' vaccines for everyone?

This is (yet another) true 'public health' issue, or are we still in the age of 'free to be irresponsible at the expense of others (don't answer that)

That shit's gotta change

Stupid is as stupid does

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 08/14/2022 07:23 AM
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I am old enough to have had teachers, family friends, and older workmates who had polio... and they lived but the deformity and handicaps were very serious. I remember my first grade teacher looked like Doris Day but had polio and one leg was about the size of her wrist. She was able to get around with a pronounced limp.
She was lucky.



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 08/14/2022 07:31 AM
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Vaccines aren't like one thing. They're like anything else, there are good ones and bad ones. I haven't heard anything negative about the polio vaccine but I would definitely do my research before giving any kids the HPV vaccine or taking the shingles vaccine. I've heard negative things about both of those.

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 08/14/2022 07:50 AM
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dingpatch

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The VA gave me the HPV vaccine.

And, I just got my last shingles vaccination a week ago.

And, , , , , , please Do Not hesitate to get the shingles shot. Last month while I was at the VA in Nashville I met an old Vet who had had shingles, , , , , , he said that he would rather have been shot by the NVA again. "That AK round Did Not hurt near as much as that fucking shingles shit".

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 08/14/2022 08:47 AM
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He's heard things. I heard lots of bad things to from the likes of Joe Mercola and company. The question is whether or not I properly research the claims and make a decision based on accurate risk-benefit analysis. Rates matter more than anecdotes.

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 08/15/2022 04:02 AM
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surfsail

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IMO everyone should do a rational risk assessment of taking/not taking any vaccine, or other medical treatment for that matter, based on their own particular case IN consultation with their doctor, but it def looks like nowadays many are basing these decisions based on irrational BS propaganda on political based websites, 'news' organizations, blogs etc etc, and not true science (aka 'statistics')..

For most all vaccines to even make it to the public, the chance of getting any serious side effects are practically zero, compared to getting, or spreading, the disease/virus etc, or they wouldn't make it to market.

Truly a sad state of affairs when a significant percent of the population make these decisions believe based on fear mongering, spread for the sole purpose of bilking or selling ads, by the the likes of alex jones et al, more than the advice of their doctors and the medical community..

is the bot asleep?

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 08/15/2022 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid

He's heard things. I heard lots of bad things to from the likes of Joe Mercola and company. The question is whether or not I properly research the claims and make a decision based on accurate risk-benefit analysis. Rates matter more than anecdotes.


I guess you are just going to gloss over the fact that I said "I would do my research..." so that you can try to make some grandiose statement that really doesn't say anything. BRAVO!!! I don't give a shit if you vaccinate yourself against feline AIDS. Take' 'em all for all I care.

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 08/15/2022 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper
Originally posted by: scombrid He's heard things. I heard lots of bad things to from the likes of Joe Mercola and company. The question is whether or not I properly research the claims and make a decision based on accurate risk-benefit analysis. Rates matter more than anecdotes.
I guess you are just going to gloss over the fact that I said "I would do my research..." so that you can try to make some grandiose statement that really doesn't say anything. BRAVO!!! I don't give a shit if you vaccinate yourself against feline AIDS. Take' 'em all for all I care.
Its his MO......identity politics, generalization, and prejudice. The very first post on this topic reeks of that as well. Just makes things so much easier to approach things with such a broad swath then to have actual debates with the individual themselves. Identity politics is a very useful tool to villainize the "opposition"

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 08/15/2022 06:06 AM
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Polio should have been eradicated, yet because of a few selfish people who refuse vaccination, it remains in circulation.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Polio should have been eradicated, yet because of a few selfish people who refuse vaccination, it remains in circulation.
kinda like....effKay?
 08/15/2022 06:18 AM
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tpapablo

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MAGA folks are very sure that ALL vaccinations are a Liberal World Government plot.
It's both sides. See one Robert Kennedy, Jr. Just recently read up on the polio vaccine. The most popular one doesn't stop one from getting the disease. The vaccinated just get a mild case - most of the time. The vaccination itself can also lead to a full blown, bad case in a small set of people. Not entirely clear cut as to whether you get the vaccine in a low polio case load scenario.

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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: Sniper
Originally posted by: scombrid He's heard things. I heard lots of bad things to from the likes of Joe Mercola and company. The question is whether or not I properly research the claims and make a decision based on accurate risk-benefit analysis. Rates matter more than anecdotes.
I guess you are just going to gloss over the fact that I said "I would do my research..." so that you can try to make some grandiose statement that really doesn't say anything. BRAVO!!! I don't give a shit if you vaccinate yourself against feline AIDS. Take' 'em all for all I care.
Its his MO......identity politics, generalization, and prejudice. The very first post on this topic reeks of that as well. Just makes things so much easier to approach things with such a broad swath then to have actual debates with the individual themselves. Identity politics is a very useful tool to villainize the "opposition"
And Tpap reference RFK Jr. thus making my point about the likes of Joe Mercola and company. RFJ Jr. is part of that "and company".

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scombrid

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Any of you research the survival rate of polio and apply the same logic you have about covid?

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 08/15/2022 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: scombrid



He's heard things. I heard lots of bad things to from the likes of Joe Mercola and company. The question is whether or not I properly research the claims and make a decision based on accurate risk-benefit analysis. Rates matter more than anecdotes.




I guess you are just going to gloss over the fact that I said "I would do my research..." so that you can try to make some grandiose statement that really doesn't say anything. BRAVO!!! I don't give a shit if you vaccinate yourself against feline AIDS. Take' 'em all for all I care.


Its his MO......identity politics, generalization, and prejudice. The very first post on this topic reeks of that as well. Just makes things so much easier to approach things with such a broad swath then to have actual debates with the individual themselves. Identity politics is a very useful tool to villainize the "opposition"


Both of you care that others get vaccinated. They are different from your tribe and that bothers you.



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OBX

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Originally posted by: scombrid Any of you research the survival rate of polio and apply the same logic you have about covid?
Although most cases of polio are mild, the 1% of cases resulting in flaccid paralysis has made polio a feared disease for hundreds of years. Of people with paralytic polio, about 2% - 5% of children die and up to 15% - 30% of adults die.

COVID has a death rate of less than 2%, and even that population makeup has common factors such as age, and health.

A polio vaccine will prevent you from catching and spreading the virus, except for rare cases where the vaccinated person in immunocompromised.

A COVID "vaccine" will not prevent you from catching or spreading the virus. No matter what.

We're not exactly talking apples to apples, now are we Scom?

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 08/15/2022 10:06 AM
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The Covid 'jab' is in fact NOT a vaccine.

Far far from it.

"Social media is calling bluff on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for modifying its definition of the words "vaccine" and "vaccination" on its website.
Before the change, the definition for "vaccination" read, "the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease."
Now, the word "immunity" has been switched to "protection."
The term "vaccine" also got a makeover.
The CDC's definition changed from "a product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease" to the current "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against diseases."


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 08/15/2022 10:19 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

The VA gave me the HPV vaccine.


You old dog! Glad to hear you are still out there getting it in on the reg.

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 08/15/2022 10:21 AM
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Sniper

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It sounds like it isn't just here. Sounds like people around the world aren't seeing much benefit in accepting the gene therapy into your life.

Moderna CEO:


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