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 10/03/2022 09:29 AM
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Sniper

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Who here believes that Russia blew up its own Nord Stream oil pipelines, creating a political and environmental disaster?

Typically you have to look at who has the motive, the means, and the opportunity. Russia could have just turned off this oil pipeline at the spigot, so to speak. They wouldn't have to blow the pipeline up to turn off supply to Europe if they wanted to. Russia was using this pipeline as a bargaining chip with Europe. Why would they destroy the source of their leverage? He was basically telling Europe that if they played nice that he might as well with respect to their access to oil this winter. This would be like if you didn't have a lawn mower and I was letting you use mine in exchange for you getting my mail each day. One day you say that you don't want to get my mail every single day, so in response I blow up my f&cking lawn mower. It makes no sense. Not only does this blow up Russia's leverage but it also limits Europes ability to negotiate some kind of a deal for themselves.

When we look at other countries who DO have the motive, means, and opportunity, a couple stand out.

It is a little early to make any judgements but IF the Biden administration is pushing us towards hot war with Russia by being involved in blowing up this oil pipeline, over Ukraine, then he is every bit as stupid as most people already assume he is. Outside of the United States, I don't think most people around the world believe that Russia did this to themselves. The problem that we run into here is that Russia has their backs against the wall. We do not. If they are looking at the end of their government or way of life, then why wouldn't they use nukes? I believe them when they say that they will use nukes if they have to and that is a terrifying thought. Are we really going to go into global nuclear war over Ukraine???

Maybe too many people stopped caring about what is going on over there, so they had to escalate? Maybe we weren't seeing enough Ukrainian flags in people's yards, who can't tell you where Ukraine is on a map?



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Doesn't make sense for Russia to have blown it. But, then again, stranger things have happened.

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 10/03/2022 01:31 PM
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Invading Ukraine didn't make sense.


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Look at the new war hawks!

Nobody seems to care about the environment as it relates to this event right now either.

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 10/03/2022 02:08 PM
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It doesn't benefit anyone right now.

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 10/03/2022 05:58 PM
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Easy way to derail petrodollar war funds..

Not surprised at all..,, Timing is everything - looks good to me..

Go fund that war now bitch... pobrecito...

We should have done this to the Saudis a long time ago and defunded their terror network - 'cept that cheney et al wouldn't cut off their golden parachute.. and our oil fix...

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Edited: 10/03/2022 at 06:00 PM by surfsail

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Originally posted by: WG Invading Ukraine didn't make sense.
war machine begs to differ
 02/15/2023 06:43 AM
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Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist details how Biden's dumb ass blew up an oil pipeline that was a joint venture between nuclear Russia and a NATO "allie" just before winter.

Just curious but if you know your neighbor has a lot of high-powered guns, how much of his shit are you going to blow up, just because you don't want him to become friends with one of your "friends"? What do you think his response might be?

Biden is pushing us straight into WWIII.

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“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 02/15/2023 at 06:46 AM by Sniper
 02/15/2023 06:48 AM
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Yes, Biden himself swam down there with a knife clenched in his dentures and set the charges. LOL.

In reality, this was a CIA operation which could be considered a terrorist attack in any other context.

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 02/15/2023 07:05 AM
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I mean, who gives a shit if a few thousand Germans freeze to death this winter. It is all worth it to make sure the Germans won't end their support for the Ukraine war because they need to heat their homes. Sometimes I guess you just have to kill a few thousand Germans to make an omelette, right?

None of this has anything to do with anything the average American cares about.

Not my President.

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Nothing new here.

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Just watch the rhetoric when China is allowed to invade Taiwan. The fools supporting this administration have been played...over and over again.

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 02/15/2023 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Nothing new here.


Uggghhh. WHAT??? What would happen if China or Russia intentionally blew up one of our oil pipelines?

When Biden's war ends up on our doorsteps then we can all thank the dumbest voters in American history.

If by "nothing new here" you mean that Biden and the rest of these retards have been starting wars around the globe over causes that have nothing to do with American security or independence for half a century, then I guess I agree with you.

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“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 02/15/2023 07:19 AM
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China will reclaim Taiwan when they want to, the USA has no say in that.

If you'd like to sign up to fight a billion PLA Chinese to "defend" Taiwan, go see your local recruiter.

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 02/15/2023 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

China will reclaim Taiwan when they want to, the USA has no say in that.

If you'd like to sign up to fight a billion PLA Chinese to "defend" Taiwan, go see your local recruiter.


Why would Biden go to war with anyone who is giving him millions in "gifts"? Come on in, make yourself at home. Sure, you can fly your spy balloon around. We will bring it down for you once you are done.

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“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

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Originally posted by: Sniper
Not my President.


Yea, we know.
We all remember what yours was.

Thank God for Joe Biden.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Mutual_Defense_Treaty

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 02/15/2023 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by: WG

Thank God for Joe Biden.


Yeah, thank God for record inflation, thank God for screwing the Germans out of affordable heat for their homes, thank God for abandoning all the Afghans that helped us, thank God making it illegal for Afghan women to go to school again, and thank God for having us on the brink of WWIII for reasons that have nothing to do with American independence or security.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 02/15/2023 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by: WG Invading Ukraine didn't make sense.
how about ...having the orangeman as prez? USA stopped making sense long ago
 02/15/2023 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry

Originally posted by: WG

Invading Ukraine didn't make sense.


how about ...having the orangeman as prez? USA stopped making sense long ago [IMG][/IMG]


yea,
The Party of Buckley & Reagan went way off the rails with the Lying Sack of Shit, but it was primed to do so for decades.

It's gonna be real hard for them to find their way back to reality now.

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 02/15/2023 at 08:13 AM by WG
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