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Topic Title: Don't Fauci my Florida.
Topic Summary: Fauci retires.
Created On: 11/29/2022 05:45 AM
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johnnyboy

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The new GOP majority wants Fauci to explain under oath how he ruined lives and the economy by advocating shutdowns, masks and social distancing.

As of today, there are more than 82,875 dead from Covid. http://www.google.com/search?q...l=en-us&client=safari

People are still dying and the GOP priority once they get in is to attack Fauci and have him look like the cause of Covid rather than a scientist and a doctor mitigating its effects.

From the Hill:
>> When he announced his imminent retirement in August, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) responded: "Never in our nation's history has one arrogant bureaucrat destroyed more people's lives."

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) told a rally around the same time, "Someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the Potomac."

Larry Gostin, a Georgetown Law professor who specializes in public health - and a longtime friend of Fauci's - told this column that he believed Republicans bringing the infectious diseases expert to face their wrath on Capitol Hill would be "politically, a very unwise move."<<

This is a good indication of where the GOP is. My guess is that Fauci, who has testified before congress countless times and needs no held defending himself, will take their lunch money.


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 11/29/2022 06:01 AM
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He did what he could with what he had.

Just imagine having to work around the idiot Trump.

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 11/29/2022 06:04 AM
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The irony is the people who died. Their political affiliations were mostly red. The GOP ignorance and willful refusal to accept the truth killed their own for the most part.

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 11/29/2022 06:07 AM
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And the willful ignorance continues..........

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 11/29/2022 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by: surfsail And the willful ignorance continues..........
You can say that again. Still no one has been able to rebut any of these facts/arguments.

The virus originated in a lab funded by Fauci. Whether or not the funds were used for this particular study depends on what version of "Gain of Function" you adhere to. The long standing definition or the revised one put out by the NIH.

We were told how deadly this virus is.....but simple math yields a survival rate of almost 99% (.

We were told the only way to beat this was a 2 week lock down, followed by a mandated vaccine (were told a mandate would never happen). We were also told this vaccine would stop the infection and spread of this disease. It does neither, so the script was flipped to say "well, it helps the symptoms". (those that saw this and read between the lines....were considered a conspiracy theorists)

Then, we were told we must take this vaccine, that doesn't do anything to stop the spread and/or infection of this virus, otherwise we'd be punished financially, or segregated from the community.

Oh yeah....remember how safe we were told this vaccine is? Turns out it does/can cause heart inflammation and in some cases, death.

Everything stated above contains objective statements with the facts employed to back them up. As in, they all literally happened. (<- READ THAT AGAIN) So, tying it all together, this virus originated from a lab in China, that was funded by the NIH, that the world government reacted to by forcing draconian laws/lock downs, and mandated a vaccine has been proven to be ineffective. Also, if you choose not to inject this vaccine, which doesn't stop the spread or infection of this virus but may cause other long term issues, you would be punished financially and/or segregated from society.......all over a virus with almost 99% survival rate

Sorry to break it to you, but unless you can offer anything of substance to rebuke anything I just said......its YOU that are being willfully ignorant.

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 11/29/2022 08:10 AM
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There is a complete lack of evidence that the virus started in a lab. The lab in Wuhan was jointly funded at that time, which means that China and the U.S. collaborated on a weaponzed virus together. Do you believe that? Or, this virus originated in wuhan after it jumped from bats to people. The origin might be confused with the cause. But even if you believe that China and the US created a deadly virus, why would Fauci be vilified for trying to prevent the weapons transmission?

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 11/29/2022 08:21 AM
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Applying simple math to complex systems inevitably leads to incorrect results. That's why math is "hard".

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 11/29/2022 08:27 AM
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And the willful ignorance continues..........
On your side. You guys made fools out of yourselves (again), and many of you jeopardized your health for good measure.

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 11/29/2022 09:06 AM
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OBX

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy There is a complete lack of evidence that the virus started in a lab. The lab in Wuhan was jointly funded at that time, which means that China and the U.S. collaborated on a weaponzed virus together. Do you believe that? Or, this virus originated in wuhan after it jumped from bats to people. The origin might be confused with the cause. But even if you believe that China and the US created a deadly virus, why would Fauci be vilified for trying to prevent the weapons transmission?
You're wrong. The virus came from that region, and there's evidence it came from the lab.

evidence

You're beloved Fauci just said yesterday he's open to that idea (once again, a complete 180)

The rest of your statement is subjective speculation. But the facts do still stand, it came from the region, with evidence it came from the lab...and the mutations that allowed it to jump from bat to human....also show signs of manipulation. All of this came out.....swept under the rug....and now coming out again. How you continually support the ones holding the broom, and continue to mock the ones who have been right all along.....is fascinating to me.

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Edited: 11/29/2022 at 09:08 AM by OBX
 11/29/2022 09:12 AM
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An inference is not evidence.

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 11/29/2022 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by: tom Applying simple math to complex systems inevitably leads to incorrect results. That's why math is "hard".
As of right now, per the CDC:
Number of reported cases: 98,481,551
Number of deaths: 1,075,779

Can someone please do the hard math for me, and tell me what percent of reported cases ended up in death?

The math I learned, tells me 1,075,779 is 1.09% of 98,481,551, so 1.09% people that got COVID in the USA died. The same math tells me that if 1.09% died then 98.91% survived.

Where am I wrong?


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 11/29/2022 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy An inference is not evidence.
If only it wasn't considered "racist" at the time to claim it came from China, and/or we actually investigated/looked for said evidence at that time.

It's almost like the broom sweepers didn't want to do it for some reason........weird.

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 11/29/2022 10:17 AM
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Covid killed over one million Americans.

For perspective, 3,000 people died on 9/11. If my math is correct that's a death rate of 0.000001, so what's the big deal with all the memorials, wars, and cheesy remembrances?
And you're still going to take your shoes off and arrive at the airport an extra hour early because of it.



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Edited: 11/29/2022 at 10:18 AM by RustyTruck
 11/29/2022 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Covid killed over one million Americans. For perspective, 3,000 people died on 9/11. If my math is correct that's a death rate of 0.000001, so what's the big deal with all the memorials, wars, and cheesy remembrances? And you're still going to take your shoes off and arrive at the airport an extra hour early because of it.
Swing....and a miss.....horrible comparison, Rusty.

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 11/29/2022 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: johnnyboy

There is a complete lack of evidence that the virus started in a lab. The lab in Wuhan was jointly funded at that time, which means that China and the U.S. collaborated on a weaponzed virus together. Do you believe that? Or, this virus originated in wuhan after it jumped from bats to people. The origin might be confused with the cause. But even if you believe that China and the US created a deadly virus, why would Fauci be vilified for trying to prevent the weapons transmission?


You're wrong. The virus came from that region, and there's evidence it came from the lab.



evidence




You're beloved Fauci just said yesterday he's open to that idea (once again, a complete 180)



The rest of your statement is subjective speculation. But the facts do still stand, it came from the region, with evidence it came from the lab...and the mutations that allowed it to jump from bat to human....also show signs of manipulation. All of this came out.....swept under the rug....and now coming out again. How you continually support the ones holding the broom, and continue to mock the ones who have been right all along.....is fascinating to me.


A 2020 article from an obscure source that states at the top, "the best evidence yet indicates the virus may be from a lab."

Maybe
May be not



 11/29/2022 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Covid killed over one million Americans.



For perspective, 3,000 people died on 9/11. If my math is correct that's a death rate of 0.000001, so what's the big deal with all the memorials, wars, and cheesy remembrances?

And you're still going to take your shoes off and arrive at the airport an extra hour early because of it.


Swing....and a miss.....horrible comparison, Rusty.


You dismiss a million deaths in the USA alone in order to promote your silly conspiracy theories. You clearly don't understand probabilities at scale.

More Americans died of Covid than died during World War One, World War Two, and Vietnam combined. But do go on about 1%.

It correlates with your percentage of functioning brain cells apparently.







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 11/29/2022 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: RustyTruck Covid killed over one million Americans. For perspective, 3,000 people died on 9/11. If my math is correct that's a death rate of 0.000001, so what's the big deal with all the memorials, wars, and cheesy remembrances? And you're still going to take your shoes off and arrive at the airport an extra hour early because of it.
Swing....and a miss.....horrible comparison, Rusty.
You dismiss a million deaths in the USA alone in order to promote your silly conspiracy theories. You clearly don't understand probabilities at scale. More Americans died of Covid than died during World War One, World War Two, and Vietnam combined. But do go on about 1%. It correlates with your percentage of functioning brain cells apparently.
Clutch them pearls, Rusty! Still doesn't change the fact that you're scared of a virus with a survival rate of 99%, still doesn't change the fact that government's response was of shear, and utter incompetence. But at least we know how easily you'll cower to give up your rights and lick that boot!! You do make a good Commie.

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 11/29/2022 12:43 PM
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Those are statistics. Think of them as pearls of wisdom. Clutch away.

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 11/29/2022 12:48 PM
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OBX

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy Those are statistics. Think of them as pearls of wisdom. Clutch away.
Statistics being taken out of context, in an attempt to deflect from the FACT that COVID has a 99% chance survival rate.

In other words......WILLFULL IGNORANCE.



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 11/29/2022 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by: OBX
Clutch them pearls, Rusty! Still doesn't change the fact that you're scared of a virus with a survival rate of 99%, still doesn't change the fact that government's response was of shear, and utter incompetence. But at least we know how easily you'll cower to give up your rights and lick that boot!! You do make a good Commie.


I'm not scared of a damn thing. Vaxed, boosted, never had Covid, good to go.

You're more scared of the vax than I am of the disease yah pussy.

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