like trump, President Biden is Innocent until proven guilty.

LMFAO!!!

But damn, really Biden, you give them this?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

"As RedState reported, no less than 10 classified documents were found at the Penn Biden Center in an office used by the now-president before he entered the White House. Because the Penn Biden Center wasn't even founded until 2018, it is clear that the documents were transported there during a period when Biden did not have the legal authority to have them."

"Of course, the documents were not "immediately" sent to the Archives either! Rather, they were held for six years, moved at least twice, and were only reported after the 2022 election despite them being "found" beforehand. So is the standard now that it's fine for someone to illegally possess classified documents as long as they turn them in when they feel like it? In this case, the timeline ensured minimum political fallout."

"Their reporting noted that the "classified materials included some top-secret files with the 'sensitive compartmented information' designation, also known as SCI, which is used for highly sensitive information obtained from intelligence sources," the sort of thing that Biden said Trump was "irresponsible" for having at his private Palm Beach estate. "



Yo...hypocrites!

Do try to explain away this crap.

Won't happen...idiots!








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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/10/2023 at 10:29 AM by Fish Killer

From the reports I've seen, the lawyers for Biden found the documents, and IMMEDIATELY called (in less than 24 hrs) the appropriate authority to come pick them up... and Biden's people handed the documents over... which is what is supposed to happen when improperly placed classified material is found.

This is a MASSIVE departure from what happened in the Trump documents case.

What we don't know yet is the level of classification these documents are. It's imperative to know it if you want to compare the two cases (Biden v Trump/apples to apples).

This happened back in November, and Garland assigned a judge who was appointed by DT to the case. So, we could assume that this might be a nothing-burger.

So, Q-nipe and Q-BX can spout their Pizza-gate theories as to what type of alien Biden is.

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Gaslight
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"It was quite the bombshell when it dropped on Monday that Joe Biden had classified documents kept in his office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C., documents from the time he was vice-president. Unlike a president, he doesn't have the cover of the Presidential Records Act and he didn't have the power to declassify anything. Plus, since the Center was founded in 2018, and he left the vice presidency in Jan. 2017, they had to have been kept someplace else in the meantime even before they got to the Center. So that raises additional questions about when he knew about them."



To be frank, I don't buy for a second that this was an accident.

A person doesn't accidentally take classified documents, move them multiple times, and lock them into a closet.

This whole "oh, we just found these documents" line is king-size bullcrap.

They "found" them just in time to wipe the slate clean after an election and before Biden announces his 2024, run?

Yeah, I bet.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/10/2023 at 11:37 AM by Fish Killer

Biden now has his own classified documents problem. Here's how it compares to Trump's.

By Andrew Prokopandrew@vox.com



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Biden probably had the nuclear codes, ready to sell them to China if they exposed any of Huntie's shady business dealings.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Also, this was known close to a week before the midterms and was kept under wraps. I think the timeline needs to be investigated to see if this story was suppressed in order to influence the midterm elections.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

you go girl!

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Yeah knock yourself out.

People can't find or afford eggs, but I'm sure they'd rather the Waffle House investigate Biden.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Maybe President Biden declassified all those just by thinking about it. Presidents can do that, at least according to a former President.

Dark Brandon declassified them with his laser eyes

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When America was "great"

It looks to me that it's a staffing issue. I sure he didn't pack his stuff His staff put the shit in the wrong box. Sounds like they were under some other items. Where tRumps crap had TOP SECRET on the boxes.

Worse than Mar-a-Lago, DOJ hides this until after the mid terms and swearing in of Congress, an unlocked and unsecured location with no control of access, when will the FBI raid all his houses and offices?

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

What an idiot.

Typical commie demoshit that also can't read.

He was VICE president when this occurred.

He had no clearance to have the documents AND he had no ability to de-classify anything.

Furthermore he moved them several times to the final location they were in.

LMAO!

Are you sure you aren't Jim Coleslaw?

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/10/2023 at 03:28 PM by Fish Killer

Classified documents can be declassifed retroactively just by thinking about it, remember Lomtard?

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When America was "great"

Biden's stashed classified documents could end case against Trump
Attorney General Merrick Garland will likely need to put away his dreams of prosecuting Donald Trump over taking presidential documents when he left the White House
By Gregg Jarrett

Scratch another undoable item off Attorney General Merrick Garland's bucket list.

He can forget prosecuting former President Donald Trump for taking presidential records with him when he departed the White House. It turns out the attorney general's boss, Joe Biden, did the same thing when he left the Obama administration.

Glaring hypocrisy aside, it would be difficult to justify criminally charging one president while turning a blind eye to the other. Legally, it would boomerang. Politically, it would be poisonous.

Monday's revelation that classified documents were found in a private office previously used by Biden blew a cannon hole in any potential case against Trump.

If Garland is foolish enough to proceed anyway, the former president could assert selective prosecution as an affirmative defense. No one else has had his home raided by the FBI or faced criminal indictment.

But more broadly, Trump's lawyers would argue that the plague of wayward documents is a common occurrence during hasty presidential transitions. Outgoing presidents don't personally pack up their own papers and belongings. The General Services Administration (GSA) pursuant to federal law performs this duty. Sorting millions of files in a short time frame is a recipe for mistakes, especially where personal papers have been commingled with official records. It is a staggering undertaking.

As I pointed out in a column last summer, during the last 60 years materials have been erroneously categorized and/or misplaced in nearly every administration. Transfers rarely run smoothly. That doesn't mean a crime occurred, even where classified records end up in the wrong place. Disagreements over custody can be protracted but are usually resolved amicably.

So much of Garland's case against Trump has been predicated on the allegedly classified nature of the documents found at Mar-a-Lago. But at its core, that's an assumption that has not yet been litigated.

Trump insists he declassified them before he departed office. If true, then this is little more than a dispute over custody of materials under the Presidential Records Act of 1978, which is civil and not criminal. The Act grants former presidents a right of access to presidential papers, as well as possession. It serves as the controlling statute, rendering the criminal laws cited by Garland in his search warrant irrelevant.

The proper remedy was for the attorney general to file a motion to compel enforcement of the original civil subpoena seeking records. Let an impartial judge resolve the conflict. Instead, Garland chose to ignore the language of the Presidential Records Act and raid Trump's home under the guise of criminal codes that have no application. He snookered a magistrate into signing an overly broad general search warrant that is strictly prohibited by the Fourth Amendment.

In addition to the imbroglio over classified records, Garland's warrant accused Trump of obstructing justice because he wasn't as compliant as the FBI demanded. This is an exaggerated, if not silly, claim. One can bicker over whether Trump was fully cooperative or promptly forthcoming. But he was entitled to resist under the legal standard set by the Department of Justice a decade ago in a similar case involving former president Bill Clinton.

At the time, the DOJ adopted the position that a former president can keep whatever presidential records he wants and the government has no authority to seize them. This was a conclusion shared by the National Archives and a U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

As a result, Clinton was allowed to maintain possession of audiotapes that allegedly contained classified information. Ten years later, the established "Clinton standard" suddenly vanished overnight because the person in question was named Trump.

The case comparison shows that Garland defied both the Justice Department's own legal interpretation of the law and previous court precedent to target Trump. The AG's flagrant abuse of power bears the unmistakable stench of partisan politics, which has infected the attorney general's corrupt tenure from the outset.

The news that Biden did the same thing as Trump was met with palpable chagrin in the mainstream media. Their dreams of Trump in an orange jumpsuit suddenly dissolved.

Immediately, anchors and pundits alike downplayed the news, invented excuses for Biden, and strained at the belly to persuade their audiences that the two cases were materially different. They are not.

The most laughable effort came - predictably - from The New York Times. Their disingenuous coverage amounted to a presidential apology. While defending Biden for an innocuous mistake, the newspaper tried in vain to draw a distinction in the Trump matter.

"In any case," the reporters wrote, "the potential charges the FBI cited in the search warrant affidavit do not depend on whether intentionally mishandled documents were classified."

What? Sure they do. Did the reporters read the warrant? Better yet, did they even read their own story published five months earlier?

The front-page headline in the Times on August 13 thread, "Files Seized From Trump Are Part Of Espionage Act Inquiry." Citing the warrant, the first two sentences explained how the FBI was focused on the mishandling of classified document under the Espionage Act. Two of the three reporters in the byline were the same ones who penned the most recent apologia. Either their memories are short or they are members of Biden's public relations team peddling dishonest accounts.

It should surprise no one that Biden and Garland concealed the disclosure of his classified documents from the public and congress for two long months. The material was uncovered on November 2, 2022, just as the attorney general was preparing to appoint a special counsel to investigate Trump. Covering up Biden's mess conveniently avoided a negative story for Democrats in advance of the midterm elections.

Democrats downplay Biden classified docs debacleVideo
There is an obvious pattern here. It is reminiscent of how the Biden White House and the FBI pressured social media platforms like Twitter to suppress and censor the Hunter Biden laptop story in the weeks before the 2020 presidential election. Burying it likely helped Biden prevail over Trump.

The president could not maintain his cloak of silence any longer. He was forced to come clean on Monday because Republicans regained control of the House, installed a Speaker over the weekend, and are about to launch a series of nettlesome investigations that would have lifted the veil of secrecy protecting his own classified documents scandal.

Last summer, Biden publicly castigated Trump as "totally irresponsible" for keeping classified documents at his Florida residence. It was a political cheap shot, to be sure. But those words will come back to haunt Joe and his sycophant attorney general.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/10/2023 at 06:08 PM by Fish Killer

Nah.

Indict them both if need be. Trump will lose, Biden won't.


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Chalk & cheese - but the starved magat base needs some read meat to get those saliviary glands going!

Yummmmmmmmmmmm - even tho it's nothing like... it'll do...

Need some 'talking points' eh?

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