About 20-40g/CO2 eq / kWh for panels. Compared to 400 - 1000g/CO2 eq / kWH for fossil. In other words, panels become carbon neutral in 2-3 years.

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It takes MORE CO2 to produce a panel and install it than it will EVER save over the course of it's life span.

I can see that in fact you don't have a functioning brain.



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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Nope. "The European example shows that fuel and CO2 costs for existing gas plants might average four to six times more in 2022 than the lifetime cost of new solar PV and onshore wind commissioned in 2021." FWIW, gas is the greenest fossil. https://www.irena.org/news/pre...mid-Fossil-Fuel-Crisis

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Don't ya just love a liar!

"In addition to silicon, solar panels also use rare earth and precious metals like silver, copper, indium, tellurium, and - for solar battery storage - lithium. Mining all these substances produces greenhouse gas emissions and contaminate the air, soil, and water.1

It's difficult to quantify those emissions because transparency varies when it comes to measuring and reporting the carbon footprint associated with extracting, processing, and transport of critical minerals and metals. A group of research centers has formed the Coalition on Materials Research Transparency to try to address this by developing industry-wide standards for evaluating carbon emissions from mining. So far, though, that work remains in its early stages. "

Furthermore CO2 (human) has literally nothing to do with 'climate change'....it's insignificant compared to many other factors that actually cause 'climate change'

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/30/2023 at 10:00 AM by Fish Killer

Nope again. Empirically grounded technology forecasts and the energy transition. Joule. September 13, 2022. https://www.cell.com/joule/ful.../S2542-4351(22)00410-X

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"Rapidly decarbonizing the global energy system is critical for addressing climate change,"


Nope...your post is a lie. ie: A LOAD OF CRAP!:

Human caused CO2 has literally very little to do with climate change.



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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/30/2023 at 10:23 AM by Fish Killer

Three strikes. Keep posting that same stale, discredited stuff. Lol dude. It's a beautiful sunny day outside and you're using solar right now. Lunchtime over, back to real stuff.

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Yep...you got three strikes.

You're out.

You look to be the idiot that you are arguing with a highly decorated Phd.

Fool!

"Academia
Ian Plimer started as a tutor and senior tutor in earth sciences at Macquarie University from 1968 to 1973.[15][16] After finishing his PhD, he became a lecturer in geology at the W.S. and L.B. Robinson University College of the University of New South Wales at Broken Hill from 1974 to 1979.[15][16] Part of his work focused on the Broken Hill ore deposit - a large zinc-lead-silver mine in Australia.[17][18][non-primary source needed] Plimer then went to work for North Broken Hill Ltd. between 1979 and 1982, becoming chief research geologist.[12][15][16] Due to his publication of a number of academic papers, he was offered a job as senior lecturer in economic geology at the University of New England in 1982.[12][15][16] After two years, he left to become a professor and head of geology at the University of Newcastle through 1991.[10][12] Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19]

Plimer is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13]

He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology.[21][non-primary source needed]

Mining companies
Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.[22][10][23]

He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,[24] independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,[25] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,[19][26] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,[27][28] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.[10][23][29][30][31] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.[32]

According to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over $400,000 (AUD) from several of these companies, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars."

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/30/2023 at 11:55 AM by Fish Killer

The man works for the coal industry you nimrod. lol

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truth!

long live the polluter...

entertaining us forever!


lol

The funny thing is that you picked out the smallewst most non-important thing in his resume to pick on to attempt to disqualify him from being a world leader and knowledge database for climate change.

He has more degrees and positions in the field of climate science than 5 of your idiot wanabe 'scientists' put together!

Fuck You Jim!

He states very clearly exactly why your human based climate change is a total fabricated fucking hoax!

IT'S FAKE JIM!

THE PROOF IS ALL LISTED THERE!

YOU REALLY ARE A BRAIN DEAD GAY COMMIE IDIOT!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 01/30/2023 at 03:26 PM by Fish Killer

Let be real here- Gary is a small town loser redneck who grew up in BFE

I'd be suprised if he ever even graduated from High School.. If he somehow miraculously did, it would have been Toothless High.

This lunkhead wouldn't know the first goddam thing about science or electricity, solar power, electric vehicles, etc.

He's a fat idiot troll on the internet.. running his mouth like he's George Santos claiming to be an electrical engineer LOL

Dude can't even keep his tits from flopping around, never mind understand how FPL's power grid works hahaha gimme a break

fuck this klown

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Edited: 01/30/2023 at 05:20 PM by fishkller

Yep...you got three strikes.

You're out.

You look to be the idiot that you are arguing with a highly decorated Phd.

Fool!

"Academia
Ian Plimer started as a tutor and senior tutor in earth sciences at Macquarie University from 1968 to 1973.[15][16] After finishing his PhD, he became a lecturer in geology at the W.S. and L.B. Robinson University College of the University of New South Wales at Broken Hill from 1974 to 1979.[15][16] Part of his work focused on the Broken Hill ore deposit - a large zinc-lead-silver mine in Australia.[17][18][non-primary source needed] Plimer then went to work for North Broken Hill Ltd. between 1979 and 1982, becoming chief research geologist.[12][15][16] Due to his publication of a number of academic papers, he was offered a job as senior lecturer in economic geology at the University of New England in 1982.[12][15][16] After two years, he left to become a professor and head of geology at the University of Newcastle through 1991.[10][12] Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19]

Plimer is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13]

He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology.[21][non-primary source needed]

Mining companies
Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.[22][10][23]

He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,[24] independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,[25] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,[19][26] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,[27][28] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.[10][23][29][30][31] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.[32]

According to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over $400,000 (AUD) from several of these companies, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars."

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

how do I get 3 strikes.

i want to be, "out!"

^already has 14 strikes.

Was out a month ago.

Too stupid to realize it.

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

out of what?

LOSER



Edited: 01/30/2023 at 07:58 PM by sandi

" a highly decorated Phd. " And this is the comedy we keep returning for; Christmas trees get decorated, not Ph.D.s.

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Lets hear your accomplishments in the arena of academia....tom.

""Academia
Ian Plimer started as a tutor and senior tutor in earth sciences at Macquarie University from 1968 to 1973.[15][16] After finishing his PhD, he became a lecturer in geology at the W.S. and L.B. Robinson University College of the University of New South Wales at Broken Hill from 1974 to 1979.[15][16] Part of his work focused on the Broken Hill ore deposit - a large zinc-lead-silver mine in Australia.[17][18][non-primary source needed] Plimer then went to work for North Broken Hill Ltd. between 1979 and 1982, becoming chief research geologist.[12][15][16] Due to his publication of a number of academic papers, he was offered a job as senior lecturer in economic geology at the University of New England in 1982.[12][15][16] After two years, he left to become a professor and head of geology at the University of Newcastle through 1991.[10][12] Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19]

Plimer is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13]

He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology.[21][non-primary source needed]

Mining companies
Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.[22][10][23]

He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,[24] independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,[25] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,[19][26] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,[27][28] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.[10][23][29][30][31] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.[32]

According to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over $400,000 (AUD) from several of these companies, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars.""

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

On LinkedIn. You gonna post up a pic of your GED?

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I hear you can get 300 watt panels for under $200 from a company in South Florida. Manufactured here.

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