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Topic Title: All people get public money Topic Summary: Florida school vouchers! Created On: 03/21/2023 06:17 AM |
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03/21/2023 06:17 AM
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Vouchers! Vouchers! Vouchers!
Come one! Come all! Get your free voucher here! Now you get to fund the wealthy too! ------------------------- I was right. |
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03/21/2023 06:18 AM
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And by all means, turn a blind eye to the obvious. lol
http://azcapitoltimes.com/news...-voucher-fiasco-fails/ ------------------------- I was right. |
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03/21/2023 06:20 AM
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Biden has funded the wealthy to the tune of 100's of billions with our tax dollars. When you bitch about that, I will return to this and show everyone, once again, what a dumbass you are. Deal?
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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03/21/2023 06:24 AM
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LoL ^
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03/21/2023 06:29 AM
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Coleslaw is so stupid!
A moron to the nth degree. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/21/2023 06:55 AM
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The vouchers are part of the overall plan to destroy public education.
That of course will lead to more poverty, and more crime, and then they will clamor for "law and order" so they can funnel even more public money to their buddies in the private prison industry. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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03/21/2023 07:10 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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03/21/2023 07:55 AM
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"I'd much prefer our buddies in the prison industry get public money"
Of course you would. Maybe they can get some to hold the failed and disgraced ex-president. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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03/21/2023 08:00 AM
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Why would choice threaten public education? In areas like where I live today, I would probably keep children in public schools. In areas with horrible schools, riddled with crime, drugs, and horrible teachers, this would give those parents another option.
If nothing else, choice would make public schools step their game up to compete. How is this bad for children? ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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03/21/2023 08:12 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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03/21/2023 08:49 AM
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It's bad because it funnels public money into private, religious, and unaccountable schools leaving behind many of the students who need the most help, and now the schools serving them have even fewer resources.
And the vouchers don't guarantee a kid will be accepted by the private schools, and almost certainly won't cover all of the tuition, leaving poor kids with no choice but the now defunded public school. The effect will be to create a two tiered educational system, one for the kids who were born lucky ($), and the poor bastards who get the crumbs. As far as unions, they can and will organize in the private sector as well as public. Oh and it also means your tax money will be supporting Islamic, Hebrew, Evangelical, and any other schools based on superstition and nonsense. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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03/21/2023 09:10 AM
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It's bad because it funnels public money into private, religious, and unaccountable schools leaving behind many of the students who need the most help, and now the schools serving them have even fewer resources. And the vouchers don't guarantee a kid will be accepted by the private schools, and almost certainly won't cover all of the tuition, leaving poor kids with no choice but the now defunded public school. The effect will be to create a two tiered educational system, one for the kids who were born lucky ($), and the poor bastards who get the crumbs. As far as unions, they can and will organize in the private sector as well as public. Oh and it also means your tax money will be supporting Islamic, Hebrew, Evangelical, and any other schools based on superstition and nonsense. Wrong! By some kids moving out of public school will give teachers more time per child to help the ones you call 'poor bastards who get the crumbs'. Those 'poor bastards' today get literally nothing as the teachers have literally NO time to give them any extra help. Those teachers are overwhelmed with overcrowding of a place that SUCKS due to the simple fact that it is way overcrowded. The monies that go to public schools is on a per child basis so by the school not having the funds for the children that would go... doesn't affect the rest of the children that are there....the same monies that would go for those children is STILL there. It's called CHOICE and NO it wont hurt any public school....unless that particular public school is so bad that it needs to be shut down ANYWAY. Some public schools need to be CLOSED as they for real do more damage to a child than they they do trying to teach him/her! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 03/21/2023 at 09:13 AM by Fish Killer |
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03/21/2023 09:33 AM
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it's by design folks. this subject been hashed out over 40 years now. continue,
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03/21/2023 09:39 AM
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The last institution holding the USA together.
It's already in bad shape. They've already chased out the good teachers and stacked the boards with loons. |
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03/21/2023 10:11 AM
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There are no standards, standardized tests or accountability for charter schools. They can be a great idea, fail miserably in practice and go bankrupt with teachers and student left hanging. all of this while the administration gets paid and dissolves leaving them unaccountable.
>>The Network for Public Education released a report on Thursday that shows charter schools across the United States failed half the time during a 28-year stretch and more than one quarter of them folded within the first five years. The study, Broken Promises: An Analysis of Charter School Closures from 1999-2017, also shows how initial investment in developing charter schools was often squandereed. Nearly $1 billion of the overall $4 billion given through the U.S. Department of Education's Charter Schools Program, "was given to schools that never opened as well as to many that were opened and then closed," according to the research. http://districtadministration....ing-rate-report-says/ One of the many critical takeaways from the NPE report is the effect that the closures had on students. More than 850,000 children, including many from lower-income and minority areas, were displaced during that period because of charter school shutdowns...<< http://thehill.com/policy/fina...5m-in-nine-years/amp/ >>Charter schools that never opened or that have opened then closed between 2006 and 2014 have cost the federal government almost $505 million, according to a recent report. The Network for Public Education, an advocacy group, released a report Friday that found more than 35 percent of charter schools never opened or ended up closing down in that time frame, The Washington Post reported. Those schools received more than a half of $1 billion, or 28 percent, of the funding from the federal Charter School Program (CSP). Through analysis of almost 5,000 schools, researchers found almost 540 schools never opened between 2006 and 2014 but were funded $45.5 million, the report said. Michigan, Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos's home state, had the most charter schools that never opened at 72.<< ------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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03/21/2023 10:22 AM
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Maybe I should start one. Academics in the mornings, free lunch for all, then fishing, sailing, gardening, marksmanship, and mechanics on a rotating basis in the afternoon. Maybe some football or surfing after that.
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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03/21/2023 10:39 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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03/22/2023 06:18 AM
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They also educate students better.
Because they are better funded. Hold the schools to the same standards and maybe I'll listen. ------------------------- I was right. Edited: 03/22/2023 at 06:20 AM by Cole |
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03/22/2023 06:37 AM
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They also educate students better. Because they are better funded. HELL NO THEY ARENT! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/22/2023 06:51 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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