JUNK man they piss me off. Brand new full carbon and the POS snapped at my lower hand, best part is that they told me its not a quality problem even though it was the 5th time out and I take care of my gear. They even refused to look at it. I was a dealer for them at the time and they told me to call werner or kialoa, that I would be happier with those companies. So just a warning to prospective buyers out there I would stay away, over priced subpar paddles built buy a company that could give a rats ass about customer service.