 04/22/2019 11:57 AM
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RustyTruck
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Wait, you post about Amazon and Trump paying no taxes, then complain that the government which your people currently control (and are spending money like sailors on leave) can't be counted on to live up to it's obligations?
This is typical pug tactics, under fund social programs, pocket the cash, then point at them and say "See! Can't trust the government".
We ARE the government, or at least we're supposed to be before it was sold off to the oligarchs. 1% controls 90% of the wealth, but there's no money for SS and Healthcare. Bullshit.
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04/22/2019 12:11 PM
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crankit
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Wasn't it the democrats that started "re-purposing" The S/S fund?
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04/22/2019 12:18 PM
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crankit
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1968: raided the Trust Fund to help pay for the Vietnam War
Today, the federal government automatically puts all of the money that should be set aside for the Social Security Trust Fund into the General Fund. Raiding the Social Security Trust Fund was a precedent set in 1968 by another progressive president, Lyndon B. Johnson, to help pay for the Vietnam War. To date, the federal government has borrowed over $2 trillion from the Social Security Trust Fund to spend on other programs.
Contrary to what many Americans believe and what progressives love to say, there is no money in the Trust Fund to pay future benefits. Furthermore, the fundamentally flawed program faces a severe demographic crisis as members of the baby boom generation begin to retire. The mess we face with Social Security, a program so many are now dependent on, is yet another example of a failed progressive policy, where the potential for unintended consequences was ignored at the program's inception. [See FactCheck on this issue].
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04/22/2019 12:26 PM
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RustyTruck
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More lies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo...ity-isnt-going-broke/
One of the ugliest tropes in American politics is to say "Social Security is going broke." Although there are structural funding problems with the system, to say that the nation's most successful annuity program is going bust is a lie. It can be fixed and only politics blocks a reasonable remedy.
But that didn't stop dozens of Fox News outlets from proclaiming otherwise. They got their facts wrong and wanted to scare people without providing context.
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"Hey, where's Cricket?" - Kristi Noem's daughter.
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04/22/2019 12:38 PM
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Fish Killer
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
More lies
">http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo...oing-broke/
One of the ugliest tropes in American politics is to say "Social Security is going broke." Although there are structural funding problems with the system, to say that the nation's most successful annuity program is going bust is a lie. It can be fixed and only politics blocks a reasonable remedy.
But that didn't stop dozens of Fox News outlets from proclaiming otherwise. They got their facts wrong and wanted to scare people without providing context.
Awwwwww....darn...you FORGOT this SHIT (in your OWN post)!
"Two parts of this report are false. 1) The Social Security trust fund will not be depleted in 2022, as implied by this statement. 2) The trust fund will remain solvent until 2034, not 2022. This is not my math, it's what the latest Social Security Trustees annual report states.
Soooooooo....Fox was SPOT ON!
"Social Security shortfall: Trust fund to run dry in 2035, trustees predict"
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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
Edited: 04/22/2019 at 12:39 PM by Fish Killer
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04/22/2019 12:54 PM
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tpapablo
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
More lies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo...ty-isnt-going-broke/
One of the ugliest tropes in American politics is to say "Social Security is going broke." Although there are structural funding problems with the system, to say that the nation's most successful annuity program is going bust is a lie. It can be fixed and only politics blocks a reasonable remedy.
But that didn't stop dozens of Fox News outlets from proclaiming otherwise. They got their facts wrong and wanted to scare people without providing context.
Ss's Trustees are saying that.
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04/22/2019 01:45 PM
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Sniper
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I don't really hear many voices encouraging younger people to save that much or contribute to IRA's or 401k's. I hope people aren't planning on just depending on SS for their retirement.
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“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama
“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
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04/22/2019 01:54 PM
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tpapablo
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Originally posted by: Sniper
I don't really hear many voices encouraging younger people to save that much or contribute to IRA's or 401k's. I hope people aren't planning on just depending on SS for their retirement.
That's what I was saying. Nobody will be able to save for retirement if dems get their way and raise taxes to pay for all the "free" stuff. It is hard enough to save with the tax rates we have now.
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04/22/2019 12:52 PM
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tpapablo
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Wait, you post about Amazon and Trump paying no taxes, then complain that the government which your people currently control (and are spending money like sailors on leave) can't be counted on to live up to it's obligations?
Two entirely different situations. Everyone pays SS taxes, Amazon included. SS isn't going bankrupt due to someone not paying into the system therefore. It is going bankrupt despite that. That emphasizes my original point.
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04/22/2019 06:41 PM
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RustyTruck
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Wait, you post about Amazon and Trump paying no taxes, then complain that the government which your people currently control (and are spending money like sailors on leave) can't be counted on to live up to it's obligations?
Two entirely different situations. Everyone pays SS taxes, Amazon included. SS isn't going bankrupt due to someone not paying into the system therefore. It is going bankrupt despite that. That emphasizes my original point.
You suggest people should avoid taxes, then complain that the government is raiding SS? You don't see the relationship?
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