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SuperTeeBird

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"Healthcare" bill.

 07/17/2017 07:09 PM
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Bamboo

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Looks more like burnt toast, now.

 

Anyway, wishing Sen. McCain a full and speedy recovery.



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GOP sweep. House, senate and president. They can't even get it to a vote.

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 07/18/2017 04:05 AM
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Fish Killer

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Looks like Obamacare will be repealed.

Obamacare is toast.

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hahahahaha

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Let it fail on it's own, but the lib's won't admit failure even as the exchanges are folding!



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 07/18/2017 04:44 AM
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theglide

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Mitch will now push for repeal without replace.
 07/18/2017 04:47 AM
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SlimyBritches

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Originally posted by: crankit

Let it fail on it's own, but the lib's won't admit failure even as the exchanges are folding!



That's because it's not a failure, KKKrammit. It's not everything we wanted since you retards did everything you could to make a black man fail.
 07/18/2017 05:22 AM
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SuperTeeBird

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I hope they do repeal it. I'm sure that will go well, LOL.

Fix it, don't break it or repeal it.

 07/18/2017 05:47 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird

I hope they do repeal it. I'm sure that will go well, LOL.


Fix it, don't break it or repeal it.


There is no fixing it!

That's an impossibility.

It will either die it's own death or Congress will repeal it.

Either way...IT"S DONE!

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 07/18/2017 05:53 AM
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scombrid

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Straight repeal is ideal.

It cannot happen fast enough.



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 07/18/2017 05:55 AM
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scombrid

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While they are at it, since they control the entire government, they need to stick to their free market rhetoric and repeal EMTALA, all tax subsidies for things like employer provided care, any rule forcing any provider to provide any service that it doesn't want to provide...



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 07/18/2017 05:58 AM
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Cole

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House - Republican

Senate - Republican

Executive - Republican

SCOTUS - Republican

Healthcare - _____

The Party of No.

The Party of Obstruction.

Is there any doubt who is to blame for the DC gridlock? No.



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 07/18/2017 06:00 AM
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RustyTruck

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Single payer.

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scombrid

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Market based with health care treated solely as a commoditiy.



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 07/18/2017 06:09 AM
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WG

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both


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WG

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a commodity like clean water, waste disposal


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 07/18/2017 06:15 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Market based with health care treated solely as a commoditiy.



What exactly is market based when they are extracting as much profit as possible?



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 07/18/2017 06:25 AM
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WG

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1. Proactive, Basic & emergency care for all, free clinics, hospitals, home visits
- paid for by payroll, employer tax, flat rate, no cap.
- staffed by Drs, Nurses, etc that are paying back their free education
- but at some point, care hits a limit

2. Special fund for keeping poor older people alive longer,
- funded by a mix of charity and a special tax only on wealthy older people

3. Special fund for extreme cost cases for the rest of us
- funded by a mix of charity and Pharma profit tax (diversion of some of what they pay now)

4. Free market
- you want something better/different, you buy what you want.
- your employer wants to incentivize you with a Cadillac plan? OK
- could be taxable as income (to help fund the rest) or tax free to draw more people away from the free stuff.



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Edited: 07/18/2017 at 07:12 AM by WG
 07/18/2017 06:26 AM
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scombrid

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Market.

You buy what you can afford.

Somebody else only sells a product if it is profitable.

Can't afford then you do without.

Insurance priced to risk, like property insurance.

You get the idea.



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