Does anyone have any current knowledge of how the local casino ship is operating in our waters?
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pretty sure the answer to this has been out there for many years, jime

 

and it aint' good.

when you flushed the toilet on the party boat "the obsession" if you were quick enough you could run to the stern and see your poo and paper plume drift back behind the boat.

I believe they can throw insane amounts and types of trash and doodoo in international waters.

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I'm pretty sure they all dump at sea.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think there are any sewage plants for cruise ships in the port.

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New rule for party boaters,carpetbaggers,and touristicrats, if you excrete it you have to eat it.  Fl should have just stuck to agriculture.

General legal limit is discharge 4 miles from shore, minimal treatment.  Lots of caveats to that rule too.  https://www.epa.gov/vessels-marinas-and-ports/vessel-sewage-discharges-statutes-regulations-and-related-laws-and

Some years ago, it was negotiated that the local (Port Canaveral) casino boats would double that and discharge 8 miles out.  Don't know the current status of that.

Here's FDEP take.  https://floridadep.gov/water/domestic-wastewater/content/deps-gambling-vessel-registration-program

 

 

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Yeah, the cows on the St. Johns Marsh from Lake Monroe to 520 are super good for water quality.

That water dumped out of C54 after Irma was all pristine too, practically distilled. 

Your rules for partyboats and carpetbaggers are fine but not all the ag has exactly been tops on natural resource stewardship either.

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I remember protesting the royal carribean adding a new ship to canaveral.....it was one of the "Enchantment of the Seas. Harmony of the Seas. Majesty of the Seas." but we called it the correct name "POLLUTER OF THE SEAS!"

Sean O'hare paddled out into the channel with a megaphone wearing a duck suit and yelled at it, coast guard patrols corralled him back towards shore.....I believe the ship was mooned as well lol

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The Florida Clean Oceans Act was passed in 2008 to prevent casino boats from dumping sewage. They have to pump out at the ports in Florida. However, enforcement was not funded so who knows. Here is the current statute: LINK

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Thanks Tom for the links!

Thanks Greg.

from your link I read:

(e)?Does not apply to any gambling vessel that annually verifies to the department that it operates a marine waste treatment system that produces sterile, clear, and odorless reuse water without generating solid waste and that eliminates the need to pump out or dump wastewater.

I'm still waiting for a reply from the casino ship ( at Cape Canaveral) who I contacted yesterday to find out what "their answers" are to my questions about their discharges. I'm just trying to get informed about this particular vessel.

Thanks again everyone!

Polluter of the Seas? This level of "pollution" is negligible folks. Should we remove all fish from the sea because they do the same? Let's spend our time and effort on something that matters.

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Obviously, you've never had a single slimey sesh with half decayed turds floating just below the surface.. must not surf much around here?  That's what they said 'bout the river, how do we like it now??????

Current algae bloom in BRL and IRL is not from the sewage spills. It is nutrient loads from all the runoff last year fueling huge plankton growth.  Sewage spills were a small part of the total nutrient load last year. They contribute for sure but the sewage spills alone would not be enough to fuel the magnitude or spatial extent of this bloom that we are seeing. The worst part is that the current super sunny and rain free weather is fueling max growth but not supplying any new nutrients. No new nutrients would be good except that if the bloom runs out of food and collapses all of a sudden then we have an oxygen crash and massive kill like in March 2016. 

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No, I've never surfed the river. I've had dreams about it, though. And I've never seen a cruise ship in there either, unless you consider that dinner boat deal.

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Edited: 02/24/2018 at 09:52 AM by SurfCaster

Would you say the same if we dumped the sewage from Cocoa Beach four miles out every week?

Sorry, but your philosophy is the reason there is a giant island of plastic trash in the Pacific.

I've damn near been hospitalized by severe sinus infections over the last four years and they appeared after surfing. And no, the bacterial load wasn't high due to birds in the area.



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The effect of dumping a little pee and poo 4 miles offshore on the bacterial load in the surf zone is negligible compared to terrestrial component. If you want to put your duck suit on about it more power, I'd save mine for runoff concerns.

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Both are an issue, so I will be concerned with both.

There are more people on the cruise ships than live in Cocoa Beach, hence my comment. That isn't a little pee and poo.


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This may sound ignorant but is there really a problem with dumping natural human waste far offshore away from land masses?  Human waste and plastic and other garbage are not the same thing.  Every being on this earth poops and the natural process is to return it to the earth.  Obviously,  I don’t want to swim in concentrated shiit but dumping natural wate far offshore shouldn’t be an issue right?  When I’m out fishing and I have to go either one or two guess where I go? Right in the water.  Does that mean I toss my food wrapper or birds nest of mono out there too?  Of course not.

 

I got some good advice once and I feel compelled to pass it on..

"Don't shit where you eat."

 

There is a difference between a bird  or wale pooping and a cruise ship dumping about 300+ flushes of drunk-huamn waste all in one spot.

 

This issue was forefront for Surfrider SI back in 2006. Here's a few protest pics. (I'm still looking for the one of Sean in a duck suit).

and one throwback just for the sake of it - with Sean Tomson and BUS (plus Andy, Dave, Joe, Roger, and Angie)!



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Edited: 03/02/2018 at 09:01 AM by GREG

Nothing ignorant about that question sarasotasurfer. Sure, it's not an appetizing thought, but casino ship dumping has zero effect on near shore water quality. Let's be environmentalists not alarmists. That provides more credibility to our arguments when it really matters.

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Surfcaster is just flat out wrong on this. Yes, it is an infinitesimal amount when thinking about sewage dumped compared to the ocean, but dumping doesn't always mix well, or sink, and only three miles from shore (if they follow the law) can still be a problem. Ask those surfers and swimmers who got staph infections about if we should be alarmed. I've heard surfers complain about the raw sewage smell around Cape Canaveral when the boats are out, and have smelled it myself. And at one point there were seven gambling boats around Florida, all dumping sewage. Add to that the risk of algae blooms due to the elevated nitrogen in the water.

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Human poop and fish poop aren't the same. Especially near shore.

 

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I believe they can also dump shower, sink, any type of wash or "grey water". If ground up they can dump almost anything except plastic(but tons of plastic still makes it out) including metal, glass and paper, 3 miles from shore as long as it is ground to less than an inch. Almost anything but plastic can be dumped beyond 25 miles whole.

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