Obamacare ruled unconstitutional by Texas judge
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The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, was struck down by a Texas judge on Friday, a move that could suddenly disrupt the health insurance status of millions of Americans. The decision comes amid a six-week open enrollment period for the program.

Texas, along with 19 states, had argued to U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor that they had been hurt by a jump in the amount of people utilizing state-backed insurance. When Congress cut the tax penalty from the program in 2017, the states claimed, it essentially undercut the Supreme Court's reasoning for finding former President Barack Obama's signature legislation constitutional in 2012.

"The remainder of the ACA is non-severable from the individual mandate, meaning that the Act must be invalidated in whole," O'Connor wrote in a 55-page opinion, according to Bloomberg. O'Connor is a conservative Republican appointee who previously blocked other Obama-era policies.

"As I predicted all along, Obamacare has been struck down as an UNCONSTITUTIONAL disaster," President Trump tweeted following the ruling. "Now Congress must pass a STRONG law that provides GREAT healthcare and protects pre-existing conditions. Mitch and Nancy, get it done!"

In a second tweet, the president declared the ruling to be "great news for America!"


California and other states ruled against by the judge will likely challenge the decision by appealing in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.

"Today's ruling is an assault on 133 million Americans with pre-existing conditions, on the 20 million Americans who rely on the A.C.A.'s consumer protections for health care, on America's faithful progress toward affordable health care for all Americans," Xavier Becerra, California's attorney general, said in a statement, according to The New York Times. "The A.C.A. has already survived more than 70 unsuccessful repeal attempts and withstood scrutiny in the Supreme Court."

"Obamacare has been struck down by a highly respected judge," White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement.

"The judge's decision vindicates President Trump's position that Obamacare is unconstitutional," Sanders continued. "Once again, the President calls on Congress to replace Obamacare and act to protect people with preexisting conditions and provide Americans with quality affordable healthcare. We expect this ruling will be appealed to the Supreme Court. Pending the appeal process, the law remains in place."

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Democratic leaders, meanwhile, reacted harshly to the decision.
"The ruling seems to be based on faulty legal reasoning and hopefully it will be overturned," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tweeted. "Americans who care about working families must do all they can to prevent this district court ruling from becoming law."

"While the district court's absurd ruling will be immediately appealed, Republicans are fully responsible for this cruel decision and for the fear they have struck into millions of families across America who are now in danger of losing their health coverage," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement. "When House Democrats take the gavel, the House of Representatives will move swiftly to formally intervene in the appeals process to uphold the life-saving protections for people with pre-existing conditions and reject Republicans' effort to destroy the Affordable Care Act."

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Trump is celebrating the fact that 100 million will lose their insurance, my family included, while the Republicans have repeatedly failed at a replacement?

This will go over like a turd in the punch bowl. lol

Can a circuit judge overrule the SCOTUS?

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I was right.

Why should someone with a "real" job be on Obamacare? Crappy employer!

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And just like that Oblama's "legacy" vanishes. Some great quotes from the disaster....."we have to pass this bill to see what's in it" "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" The evil ways of the deep state democrats are being exposed. Nobody should be celebrating this. The French come together against their deep state while we let them divide us. Truth.

Edited: 12/15/2018 at 07:23 AM by goynleft

Honestly, are you that our of touch?
Been in that big socialist cocoon that covers you too long?
Don't see the reality for most?
Or are you a vet that uses the socialist VA medical system?

Because many real jobs don't offer it these days. Too expensive.
Big companies living off the DOD socialist tit can bill the rest of us for it, but many companies either can't or don't.

I am an independent consulting engineer, I pay for my own insurance.
I just enrolled in an Obamacare plan that costs about the same as the previous employers plan that I was continuing via COBRA.

But this plans coverage is much better, covers far more albeit with a higher deductible.
Without Obamacare, I'd be paying far more to find any insurer that would accept my pre-existing conditions and age.

Thanks Obama.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 12/16/2018 at 01:12 PM by WG

Yo...SHITHEAD!

I LOST my insurance when Obama guaranteed me I could keep mine!

He said I could keep my doctor too!

I lost MY doctor!

My premiums have OVER DOUBLED!

ASSHOLE!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

One other thing dipshit....

Congress signed a tax law last year that included removing the 'individual mandate' from Obamacare.

By removing the 'individual mandate' Congress effectively changed/altered the foundation of Obamacare that actually made it a tax (SCOTUS Roberts ruling that Obamacare was a tax).

It's NOT a tax any more....thus it's un-constitutional.

ANY MORON CAN SEE THIS!

Idiot!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 12/15/2018 at 10:47 AM by Fish Killer

Let me get this straight, Republicans, including Trump passed a bill that effectively kills healthcare for millions and yet they don't have a replacement?

And Trump and Republicans see this as a win? Really?

Now I can see why so many Republicans in the House jumped ship. Good God, there won't be a Republican left anywhere come the next election when this shit hits the fan.



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I was right.

Edited: 12/16/2018 at 03:22 PM by Cole

NO...Republicans removed the PART of Obamacare that was UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

IE: ILLEGAL!

IDIOT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Now you are saying the SCOTUS doesn't have the final say, considering they said it was Constitutional?

But as Scombrid keeps asking, how is this new decision to be funded? And what are those of us who use the ACA supposed to do for insurance? I am a responsible American, I want to pay my own way and have no desire to buck the system for my family and I to survive...unfortunately, it's looking like Republicans are forcing me into that corner.

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I was right.

NO...SCOTUS said it was a TAX!

The judge said thyat the TAX is unconstitutional and the TAX had been removed by Congress....

Soooooo...therefore Obamacare is NO LONGER a TAX.....

Congress regulated the TAX part GONE!

Therefore it was Congress that sunk Obamacare!

NOT SCOTUS!

SCOTUS will have no justifiable reason (ie: NO FINAL SAY) to vote any other way about Obamacare....as in....IT'S GONE!

If anyone with half a brain can see...it's no longer a TAX!

Even your lame as shit liberal side of SCOTUS will have no choice but to vote it down!

FACT!

Obamacare is DONE!


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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Republicans found a judge that would do their bidding and got the ACA thrown out. They have no replacement for healthcare and millions will lose their insurance. Once again, how do you see this a a good thing for Republicans in the next election?

One a second note, Republicans will have to have the House to get anything passed from here on out. Will Republicans bend to the will of the people or will they be relegated to the failing part of history books?

Is this the opening salvo for single payer health plans?



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I was right.

Edited: 12/17/2018 at 04:01 PM by Cole

Listen buttwipe!

You can armchair quarterback all you like BUT know this...you have been WRONG on every one of your predictions with Trump so far!

You haven't made ONE correct prediction yet.

Soooo little man...why dont you sit down and STFU!

You have no business opening your BIG fat mouth!

FOOL!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Hell, what haven't I been right on; from a stimulus tax cut that heats the economy so it has to be cooled by interest rate hikes, to multiple arrests and convictions, to meetings with Assange (said that one in 2016), to flopping with NK and tariffs taking a bite out of the economy. My new predictions: The economy output falls below three percent, Trump's kids make the headlines in negative fashion and Trump tells more lies.

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I was right.

Post where you predicted it!

Liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Everyday for the last two years.

A two page note for a nuclear deal with North Korea, tariffs with no legislation, "I know more than the generals!", a massive unfunded tax cut, poorly executed executive orders, love for dictators. . .I mean seriously, this shit isn't hard to predict.



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I was right.

Yep- we definitely need a new President (one with some skills)

to get in there and clean up this healthcare mess.

The one we have now spends all his time on Twitter calling people names.



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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

How odd. All these Republicans pledging that they wanted to protect coverage for preexisting conditions before the election, are now cheering a ruling that would effectively end the surest way to keep those protections in place.

Just repugs being repugs.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

How do you propose to pay to protect pre-existing conditions without an "individual mandate"? Trump promised this and now he is trying to pass the buck. Tell us how this is supposed to work. Pre-existing conditions are uninsurable and cannot be covered without some kind of subsidy. Where shall we seek the subsidy?

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Edited: 12/16/2018 at 07:10 AM by scombrid

In a proper free-market capitalist health care system there'd be no regulation and no subsidy. You get what healthcare you can afford and what insurance the companies are willing to sell you priced to your risk. This is the system we should have to give the TeaParty what is says it wants. Health care is not a right, remember.

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the ruling will probably be overturned.

and, do the repubs have a good health care plan ready to go?

they sure have had enough time to put one together.

Where's the repub's health care plan?

when does it go into effect?

are they interested in a real solution?

or would they rather just keep talking about the problem, and blaming President Obama?


We need solutions. Not whining babies. and finger pointers, like pumpkinHead...

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In a proper free-market capitalist health care system there'd be no regulation and no subsidy. You get what healthcare you can afford and what insurance the companies are willing to sell you priced to your risk. This is the system we should have to give the TeaParty what is says it wants. Health care is not a right. Remember? You don't get a federal plan passed by Congress that "protects pre-existing conditions" and a free market health care system. You can't have both. If Fish Trump Killer wants Congress to force insurance or providers to "protect pre-existing conditions" then it needs to tell us how to pay for such protection.

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Well?

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Come on Trumpers. Tell me how that is supposed to work.

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If we get my wish and we go to a free market system and fat old men in their late 50s and older can no longer get a decent policy; will having property purchased with the proceeds of an estate sale in a trust shield that property from medical bill debt collectors when an expensive illness racks up bills in the high 6 figure to 7 figure territory? Asking for a friend.

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mr. PumpkinHead is bragging what a Great Health Care Plan we're going to have.
As with all things Pumpkin Head, NO DETAILS.

trump has a pre existing condition. he's a sociopath. and we're stuck with him.

now he's stuck with a Democratic House.
will his head explode when he hears the word no?

Pumpkin Head wants healthcare.
He's had 2 years, but did nothing.

But he and the republicos have NO Plan.
Now he'll just blame the dems.

And Mexico will pay for the Wall...

Idiot!

Ask most of the industrialized world how they manage it.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

I want to know how the Trump base thinks it is supposed to work. How do you force insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions without any way to pay for it? Show me the math.

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EMTALA and forcing insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions with no individual mandate. Come on Trumpsters; show me how that is to be funded.

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Healthcare IS NOT a 'right' and never will be!

You cant legislate/STEAL someone's skill, knowledge and talent for FREE!

Thats THEFT!

MORON!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 12/16/2018 at 11:04 AM by Fish Killer

So there should be no subsidy for health care (including employer provided care tax breaks) and no EMTALA and no regulation that requires insurers to cover pre-existing conditions.

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Trump is demanding coverage for pre-existing conditions. How does that work in a free market system?

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That being the case. Congress has no reason to "protect pre-existing conditions" as you demand in the opening post.

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That being the case. Congress has no reason to "protect pre-existing conditions" as you demand in the opening post.

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FK - Can you ever make a point without yelling and screaming like a 5 year old?

Can you ever make a valid contribution to a conversation without calling people an idiot or a fool?

Seriously... you come off like a maniac.

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

How do you propose to pay for that?

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Got it.
C'mon guys, don't they give you an answer for questions like that?
is it "don't answer", change the subject, or build a wall?

I now predict, via time travel, that he will combine the first two,
thus building his wall against reason.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 12/17/2018 at 11:02 AM by WG

It did all of those.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

1. How are you going to pay for it? 2. Health care is not a right so why should Congress pass a law that provides anything?

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1. How are you going to pay for it? 2. Health care is not a right so why should Congress pass a law that provides anything?

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Mexico will pay for it!

They already are.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.