"My point is that we can't have a situation where the president is effectively immunized against any consequence because the Justice Department takes the view that notwithstanding whether they would find evidence of criminality he cannot be indicted and that they will not share evidence with the Congress that would allow Congress to pursue any other remedy. That simply cannot be the policy of the Congress or the Justice Department that the president is above the law because that would effectively make the president above the law, neither subject to indictment nor impeachment."

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

"I'm still enjoying what I'm doing, there's still work to be done. I'm still the President's wing-man, so I'm there with my boy." - Eric Holder, Attorney General under President Barack Obama

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

So you agreed when Holder did it?



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Did Holder ever withhold the results of an investigation into the president which could include impeachable offenses?

If Justice tries to block Congress, all hell's going to break loose and the fate of the country will be in the balance.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Yeah, Schiff is on it. We're terrified now. In fact, I am contemplating suicide. One has to wonder if life is worth it, with Schiff on it. What's wrong with you people?

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Thank you. I Couldn't have teed that one up better myself. What does the phrase 'Fast and Furious' mean to you?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

You'd have to do better than that snooze fest.


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

I don't particularly care whether or not you support putting assault rifles in the hands' of Mexicans and Central Americans, creating an environment that is so violent that caravans of innocent people must travel North.

That isn't really what I was pointing out. Of course you guys support that. Obama did it.

I really wanted to point out the relationship that Holder and Obama had. They worked together to seal documents from Congress and the American people. So you can go ahead and save your "OH, HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!"s when the shoe gets put on the other foot. How short do you think people's memories are? You guys act like Trump isn't allowed to talk to the next Attorney General, when Holder did whatever the f Obama told him to do.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Hard hitting news from the New York Post? The scandal that no one is talking about? We can safely call that an apple. As for the treason of President, his efforts to become above the law and stacking the positions who will make those decisions? You guessed it, that's an orange.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

The only thing Schiff is on is his own pile of Schitt!

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I always thought it was interesting to see conservatives fight any gun laws, records of gun purchases and tracking of subsequent ownership and then claim that guns sold at the border by the thousands, which could not have been legally prevented, tracked or stopped, caused deaths in Mexico where they were recovered. Care to fill us in on that?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Yeah. It was the gov't selling them to criminals. And, no, the buyers could not have bought them legally. Why don't you learn these things yourself instead of always relying on me to educate you?

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I thought cons argued that there is no such thing as "assault Weapons"?

Nor do I think F the "fast and Furious" witch hunt (LOL) involved any concern that the President might be a foreign asset.

Of course the AG often works to protect the President.
But I don't recall ever hearing holder argue that the President was totally above the law.

Of course he never had to.
Seems like Barr's job is to argue just that


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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 01/17/2019 at 11:33 AM by WG

"Cartels and thugs had no access to guns before the Fast and Furious investigation. Obama armed the caravans, because he wanted open boarders!" -Qanon

From Wikipedia:
One 20-year veteran of ATF's Tucson office told us that before Operation Wide Receiver, all of ATF's trafficking cases were very similar in their simplicity: ATF would get a tip from an FFL [Federal Firearms Licensee][21] about a buyer who wanted a large number of firearms and information about when the transaction was scheduled to take place, and would set up surveillance and arrest the buyer when he headed southbound or at the border. Sometimes the initial buyer would cooperate with ATF, and agents would arrest the actual buyer when he showed up to take possession of the guns. If the guns went to a stash house, agents would speak with subjects at the stash house or conduct a search of the stash house. This agent told us that ATF interdicted guns as a matter of course and had been "content to make the little cases," but that Wide Receiver represented a "different direction" from ATF's typical practice.
- Report by the Office of the Inspector General on the Review of ATF's Operation Fast and Furious and Related Matters, September 2012[1]

This was not the President arming drug thugs for secret cash in Mexican land deals for his companies. Gun walking was a flawed strategy of an ATF that was trying to snare the big fish. It never implicated the President nor did he ever profit from any business transactions from these firearms sales to strawmen that were never apprehended.


Good work, Snupid. I was distracted there for a while. Its about Trump quarterbacking his own defense with corrupted officials. Not ancient history and whataboutisms.


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Sniper, I get your point about Obama, but why do you have no problem with Trump doing the same thing?

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What about Obama and his Attorney General, Eric Holder, actively working together to conceal information from Congress and the Amercan people. You going to say that didn't happen?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

If you have evidence that Obama and Holder obstructed justice, then come forward and see to it that charges are filed.

That's not relevant to current situation. We now have a witness with direct knowledge who will testify that trump directed him to lie to Congress. That's a crime and it's impeachable AF.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Holder was held in contempt of Congress for witholding information? Once Trump has a AG working as closely with him as Holder worked with Obama, you guys are going to collectively lose your shit and that's why it is relevant.

Let's hold our horses on this Buzzfeed story about Trump instructing Cohen to lie. You won't find any "news" organizations reporting this as fact yet. Only the same organization that first put the dossier out there as fact.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Did you watch the Barr confirmation hearing? GOP Senators asked if Barr thinks subornation of perjury is obstructing justice. It was asked multiple times. Barr also swore under oath not to interfere with the Mueller investigation. Looks like Barr will be confirmed and it is no coincidence this question was asked, they already knew about it...

Oh buzzfeed just confirmed they've "seen official documents, been briefed on documents and they are very confident in their reporting".

Edited: 01/18/2019 at 08:20 AM by HAPDigital

It's on Faux, but I have never considered that legitimate news. The Holder deal is all long over, and has nothing to do with trump's obstruction of justice. Go back and charge Obama with something if you have evidence, I don't care. Do what you like with him.

Meanwhile, this revelation is the first of many nails to come which will be pounded into the coffin of trump's presidency.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Fox is reporting that Buzzfeed is reporting it....using more unnamed sources.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I saw this fake news coming from a mile away. Sad thing is that many of you will still believe it just because you wish it was true.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate,"

That could mean everything or it could mean nothing.

Description of specific statements? wtf does that even mean?

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It means the FBI is doing CYA. "We don't leak." Otherwise they would say it is false. The statement was all about their office policy/procedure, nothing else. Mark my words...

Edited: 01/19/2019 at 01:20 PM by HAPDigital

Holder--contempt of Congress!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

What'd I say? Mueller comes out and says another Buzzfeed report is inaccurate and these useful idiots are still holding onto it. Same with the dossier. Everyone, including Comey, come out to say that it can't be verified but all these braindead monkeys still believe it is true because they wish it were.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I never make claims on early reports for this very reason, but time will tell.

Hell, Trump says fake shit and it ends up as gospel, as we see on here all the time, and it worked well enough to put him in office, so maybe smearing bullshit all over the news and net is the answer to quelling the orange one's agenda. Thinks about it, Trump said Mexico will pay for the wall, then he said he would own the shutdown, yet somehow almost every single Republican blames the Democrats? Really?



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Edited: 01/21/2019 at 06:32 AM by Cole

Yeah remember this, direct fake news from the WH Press Sec. Not a peep out of FK or Snipper. This is doctored imagery pushed by the White House. How fucked up can you get?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/11/08/white-house-shares-doctored-video-support-punishment-journalist-jim-acosta/?utm_term=.0c8f46eee325

White House shares doctored video to support punishment of journalist Jim Acosta


White House press secretary Sarah Sanders on Wednesday night shared a video of CNN reporter Jim Acosta that appeared to have been altered to make his actions at a news conference look more aggressive toward a White House intern.

The edited video looks authentic: Acosta appeared to swiftly chop down on the arm of an aide as he held onto a microphone while questioning President Trump. But in the original video, Acosta's arm appears to move only as a response to a tussle for the microphone. His statement, "Pardon me, ma'am," is not included in the video Sanders shared.

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They didn't doctor shit. They slowed it down, so people could see what happened.

When the NFL slows down the recording of a play, so they can review what happened, are you saying that they are "doctoring" the record of what actually happened?

You think that slowing a film down, of something that really happened, is the same as Buzzfeed putting out a false report, citing more unnamed sources, claiming the President instructed his attorney to lie to Congress? I'm about to give up on people altogether. At least when my dog acts like a fucking moron its cute. When adults are stupid it just annoys me.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

You didnt watch the side by sides. Also, you do not understand the english language. "Not accurate" does not mean false. It means some details are not correct. They never claimed the buzzfeed story was false. If it was they would do so. Instead of losing faith in people learn to read.

That dossier is looking pretty accurate now.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Lol! You appear to be more confident in this story than its author is.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

So would Barr. Trump is the last guest to this party.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

My guess is Barr was a set up. He is well acquainted with Mueller. I don't believe this AG will do anything but follow the rule of law, like they should.

Yeah, I've been thinking that Barr may be sent by the GOP to take trump out before he does any more damage and loses them the WH. They may calculate that their best play to keep the gains they've made is to get trump out, Pence in, and try to run in 2020 on holding on to courts and tax cuts for their buddies.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

CRAPDigital........ALWAYS WRONG!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

They slowed it down to make it look like a 1970's movie Kung-fu chop!

HA CHA!

Busted!

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