Just like the few incompetent ones on this forum!

Leaky Waders
July 14 at 10:01 PM
I'm no biologist, but I think there might be a better time to open red snapper season than when every fish is bursting with fat sacks of roe and milt. Your tax and other dollars have been allocated to NMFS/SAFMC/Dept. of Commerce/FWRI and the fishery has been closed for TEN YEARS for them to STUDY RED SNAPPER BIOLOGY.
You would think they'd have a teensy lil bit of insight into spawn timing?
100% of fish I gutted this week were ready to blow. Commercial and rec season is wide open the full breadth of a waxing and full moon phase...of course these fish will be fornicating. I don't understand the logic.
There are way more big fish now, which is great. But this is quite an oversight that just doesn't bode well for the credibility of the resource managers or the health of the fish they are RESPONSIBLE for protecting.
Just an FYI, this is not an argument about rec vs commercial. This is about harvesting mass numbers at the wrong time of year. If they're spawning now, which regulators SHOULD KNOW BY NOW, then harvest by EVERYONE should be delayed until they've had a chance to release gametes for the year. This is BASIC FISHERIES BIOLOGY.
This is management sleeping on the job.
This is not a sustainable management strategy. Please pardon me for expecting more out of PhD fisheries biologists and statisticians being paid by we the people.
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Yeah let's listen to Lyin Fish with that fancy PHD he's got in Biology..

Irony is that this is probably due to climate change. (not that I know anything about fish reproductive cycles)


My suggestion to whoever wrote that (obviously not FK, as it is legible)

is to go get your degrees and then get involved if you can do a better job.

Not a scientist? Well, stick to crying on Facebook



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Edited: 07/17/2019 at 05:23 PM by fishkller

Cant argue facts so just lie then tell the whistleblower to get a degree!

The commie demoshit way.

You cant argue with photographs and the FACT that
ALL of the female red snapper ARE FUCKING SPAWNING!

Go tell your commie demoshit BIOLOGISTS to get an ACTUAL DEGREE!

The one they BRIBED someone to get isn't good enough!

Sad.

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Edited: 07/17/2019 at 06:05 PM by Fish Killer

Just saying, a guy who still hasn't gotten past 3rd grade is not a guy that people take seriously..


Maybe you can get some of your boy's "best guys" in there, since he seems to have such high-calibre folks surrounding him-

I hear OJ Simpson is free- he's just about perfect for you guys


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Edited: 07/17/2019 at 06:19 PM by fishkller

Get back to us all FAKE NEWS fishkller...when you have some proof that ALL of the female Red Snapper ARENT spawning...

Till then STFU!

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Never said they weren't spawning, Fake Knews.. judging by the photo, seems they are.

I said it would be ironic if they are now spawning at a different time due to climate change.

If you ask me- they should close all fishing. Period.

Humans have overfished the whole damn ocean.. why should these species suffer so fat dumbasses like yourself can float around and waste gas trying to catch fish .. so you can stuff it in your fat gut and hit 389 on the scale.

I say we feed your fat ass to the fish.

THAT is what I said LOL

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Edited: 07/17/2019 at 07:49 PM by fishkller

...editing your post to say something different...well...

BUSTED!

LIAR!

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Nah - thats a lyin fish move.

I edit my posts when I make them if I see a typo. Check the timestamps oh fat one..

Also, next time read what people post first so you dont look like (more of) a jackass when you make your silly 3rd grade level replies..

BMI 79!





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For the 1st time ever, I agree with FK's post 100%...... While I'm pretty pro-conservation for a fisherman, The management of Red Snapper has been retarded. With the year long closings, why the hell do they toss a bone with a "mini-season" in the summer while they spawn?!? it makes no sense

Edited: 07/18/2019 at 04:51 AM by Plan B

Sadly this is only ONE of the retarded things that the management team of brain dead 'biologists' have done!

There are MANY!

This is the same logic and reasoning I hear from scumbird regularly!

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I agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense. They are apparently aware of the times coinciding....



Gulf FSA

I sent an email to a friend asking for an explanation.

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Edited: 07/18/2019 at 05:00 AM by worksuxgetsponsered

Commercial guys are allowed to keep 13" snapper?!?! wtf?!?! ..... someone calling the shots got paid $$$

Not only are biologists aware of what months highly desirable fish spawn, they know exactly what time of day certain aggregations are most actively spawning. And no, it has nothing to do with the moon as your friend seems to think.
Know what else biologists know? What the sugar industry is doing to our freshwater, what waterfront luxury developments are doing to the intracoastal.

Guess who else knows when humans are most likely to purchase fuel, tackle, beer, etc etc? The industries that sell those things. Money will always win out.

The best thing your friend your friend can do is refuse to participate, and tell his buddies and the state exactly why.

I realize that's hard to do though. Still inform the state that hey, you're willing to go out after September in the VAS conditions and be happy with a slower bite. Try to get his buddies to express the same. If the state knows they'll still get their money, they might change it.

In any case, it's not the biologists who are dumb, nor the state. It's greed on the part of the state and businesses, and alaziness/unsportin

. . .attitude on the part of rec fishermen, of which I too am guilty.


Now, let us argue about why commercial outfits can just pillage Willy nilly! Must be some dumb scientist's fault right?

The 'scientists' (biologists) get paid!

They have financial GAIN involved.

It is to their best interest to come up with the answers that their handlers want!

They are just as complicit as the ASSHOLES that deliver the LAW!

The two work hand in hand!

You cant separate them!

They are ALL part of the same pile of shit!

Nice try though!

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Yea, fishy throws back all the spawning dolphin he catches too. lol

Hey what do you know, something new to be outraged about.

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Yo....SHIT FOR BRAINS!

It's the SEASON for spawning for Red Snapper that I have a problem with!

We can catch Red Snapper outside of their spawning season!

MORON!

Dolphin (Mahi) can and do spawn ALL YEAR!

IQ79 STRIKES AGAIN!

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That's a great idea! It would definitely weed out some of the masses.

Although the best Marlin bite in Panama is December- Feb, in nasty conditions and people still pay big $ booking rooms years in advance..... Eff that, I'll take my mini-400lb marlins in May..

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Damn right it isn't the biologists calling the shots on this. Industry (commercial sportfishing, or what some people call charters, and the boat and tackle manufacturers) is driving this. There's people out there actually arguing that this species is worth more money at lower abundance with more boats running than with a fully rebuilt population and higher harvest. They are arguing in favor of "Maximum Sustainable Access" instead of "Maximum Sustainable Yield" as being Optimum for fisheries like this. This dopey little season is a compromise.

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I know people who wanted Trump to open the season on the East like he did in the gulf. Now they blame the scientists. Stupidity at the highest order.

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I was right.

The scientists ARE TO BLAME!

They're the ones who STATED....'DO IT'!

All the politicians did was follow the exact recommendations of the BIOLOGISTS!

It's SHIT like THIS that Politicians follow!

FACT!



MORON!

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Edited: 07/18/2019 at 10:13 AM by Fish Killer

But you have no issue with Trump opening the season on his own?

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I was right.

Trump said to open it...he didnt say when or for how long!

ASSHOLE!

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Trump opened it in June for an additional 39 days.



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Kill it in March. Kill it now. It still dies before it spawns. What matters from a population standpoint is total annual mortality and spawning stock biomass. Fishing "spawners" becomes bad for the population when the spawners aggregate and become super vulnerable to over-harvest. Think netters wiping out entire aggregations of redfish or gag. Mini-season during the summer is probably the least likely to be affected by adverse weather. Barring a tropical disturbance it tends to be a lot calmer out there this time of year than during time of year when fronts are rolling through every week. It isn't called Lake Atlantic for nothing right now while a million people grovel at NSI because it isn't breaking anywhere else. Damonsharp already wrote it. Industry driven. Biologists don't make the rules or open/close the seasons. Political appointees do. Personally, I think the spawning stock biomass is still too low to justify opening up. The population is rebuilding nicely but it isn't there yet. Biologists would be managing this population for maximum sustainable yield which would mean we would be fishing them yet and especially not right now.

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Typical SCUMBIRD BULLSHIT!

This is EXACTLY WHY YOU SUCK SOOOOOO BAD!

Did it EVER occur to you to kill them RIGHT AFTER THEY SPAWN???

Maximize the fertilized egg stock????

You're a WASTE OF FLESH....SCUMBIRD!



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Yeah, nobody ever considered egg per recruit before.

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If you are so worried about mortality during the spawning season, maybe you should advocate for area closures that prohibit all bottom fishing where by-kill could occur. I bet that would go over well. These people that are bitching about the season being now would be bitching if the season was in March and they got blown out by a Nor'easter. They're going to bitch regardless. Because of people like them I think we should throw off all rules and just let things run their course. I'm sure they'll all do the right thing.

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^^^must be the 2nd smartest lib on here, the 1st is already taken!

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

THAT ALREADY OCCURS!

MORON!

As for your SHITTY EXCUSE....IT"S A SHITTY EXCUSE!

It doesn't flush!

Killing massive egg producing females at the height of spawning is what MORONS DO!

The biologists are the ones suggesting that the Politicians DO IT!

IT"S YOU!

ASSHOLE!

FACT!

MORON!

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Edited: 07/18/2019 at 10:08 AM by Fish Killer

No it is the politicians (Wilbur Ross et al.) bending to industry. Industry wants to go fishing. Scientists just tell them how much they can "get away with" without crashing egg production. Every biologist you talk to will tell you that the current fishing plan is bad for the rebuilding schedule.

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Some very good points made..... Yes, I'm against the overall handling of Red Snapper (the whole thing is assbackwards).... but as others said, it's politicians influenced by $$$ (or arrogance) that make those official calls.

And besides that. I think we've pretty well established that this season isn't set to be biologically optimal.

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If you don't want to kill them while they are spawning, don't fish for them.

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I was right.

Biologists give SHITTY advice that those Politicians use to pull the shit that they just did!

AND...Those Biologists get PAID to give that SHITTY ADVICE!

Biologists just like YOUR SHITTY ASS are the PROBLEM!

MORON!

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I'm sure Gary Niclaus puts his PhD in fish population dynamics to good use while sitting on the commission.

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Liar!

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And you seem to understand nothing about basic population dynamics either.

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Fish Killer, your problem here appears to be with knowledge, not the rules, not the survival of the fish.

All science and scientists do is present findings, as they clearly have re: when snapper spawn. In fact, I'd say the biologist have given incredible insight into when and where red snapper spawn, down to amount and hours. For that, they're pretty poorly paid.

They don't make laws. They don't tell you or me to participate

I'm probably wasting my time talking to the flubber thing that is Fish Killer, but I wanna attempt to help it.

Fish Killer, science doesn't make regulations. Scientists simply research and advise, and, more often than not, that advice is ignored in favor of people making money. That's why it's important that you elect legislators, councilmen, and even presidents who are likely to listen to the results of extensive research, not the easy path of max profit. Eye of the needle and all that.

It's the advise that sucks!

If it were just the research I wouldn't be angry.

The Politicians LISTEN to the bullshit advice.....ALL THE TIME.

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How did Trump make is decision to open the season during spawning time?



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No clue but it doesn't matter!

YOUR 'scientific' way is BULLSHIT!

FACT!



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My goodness Fish Killer is impossible.

Biologist determined down to the hour in small, aggregate locations as to when red snapper spawn. They duly pass this info along. Legislators and FWS cronies determined what they'd allow, and took into account businessmen and when most people actually want to fish.

If it were

Up to the scientists, we likely wouldn't be fishing much at all. Nor would we be building along the intracoastal and coastal north of Ft. Pierce. Nor would people in Ohio be using coal power plants. Nor would you and I be eating the fried garbage we fill ourselves with (we blackened my two, but if I had my druthers w the boss, I would like to fry next time, and there's gonna be a next time in two days cuz I am working in Charleston for two weeks and I'm off in the middle of their red snapper time.

Again, they told the powers

That be when the fish spawn, how many are spawning, where they spawn. What more do you want? Scientists don't make decisions, they find information.

It's up to you and me and elected officials to be more responsible. As of now, I raise my hand as guilty. I did two in Florida last week. I intend to do more in SC Sat or Sun.

I will, after reading your post, say I'm willing to wait until crappy offshore times if that will help the species though.

I am writing to myfwc.com right now. Would you do the same? How about tell Bill Posey? He's our legislator, he does regulations for a living. Not scientists.

Sorry for the multi posts, but I'm up on top of a project right now that um ironically, will enhance network coverage in the waterway west of isle of palms.

We arent!

Do the math!

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AGAIN.....it's the advice that screws it all up....cause the Politicians listen to your crap!

It's SHIT advice like THIS that gets a harvest in the MIDDLE of spawn!



FACT!

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Dude, just stop.....

STFU!

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" it is the politicians (Wilbur Ross et al.) bending to industry. Industry wants to go fishing. Scientists just tell them how much they can "get away with" without crashing egg production. Every biologist you talk to will tell you that the current fishing plan is bad for the rebuilding schedule." -Scombrid



"Biologist determined down to the hour in small, aggregate locations as to when red snapper spawn. They duly pass this info along. Legislators and FWS cronies determined what they'd allow, and took into account businessmen and when most people actually want to fish.

If it were up to the scientists, we likely wouldn't be fishing much at all. Nor would we be building along the intracoastal and coastal north of Ft. Pierce. Nor would people in Ohio be using coal power plants. Nor would you and I be eating the fried garbage we fill ourselves with" -damonsharp



YUP!

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Edited: 07/18/2019 at 01:13 PM by fishkller

Isn't this the same thing Pro-choice aholes do to human beings? Oh no wait they suck babies out of womens bellies with a hoover to save the pregnant woman from the trauma of having a baby. Fish Killer - maybe you should just catch the fish, cut the roe out and release them back to the wild. If it's good enough for humans it must be ok for fish?

Maybe you should get your buddy Wilbur Ross to change his mind. See if he'll pick you over the industry just like he picks industry over scientific advice. I'm at the point where I want the commercial sportfishing industry to get its way so it can fish itself out of business just like the old commercial guys did in decades past when they crashed snapper before.

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Trump did it and he doesn't care. Nuff said. He's an asshole. A clueless asshole.

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Trump's people approved the extension on June 16th.

Huh, add 39 days from the 16th and where does that put you? Right through spawning season?

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ever hear of "Catch and Release," lil' f'er?

if it's so terrible, set them free.

it's your choice.

you're responsibility.

it's "roe vs. lil' f'er."

lil' f'er is pro "choice."

"Fish Killer."

yup, he is...

" If you don't want to kill them while they are spawning, don't fish for them"

YUP!



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Edited: 07/18/2019 at 10:06 AM by fishkller

Trump appointee Wilbur Ross is the head of the Department of Commerce. He is the first head of the department to stick his nose directly in fishery management council business. He forced the mid-Atlantic Council to let New Jersey continue to overharvest fluke because his buddies in the commercial sportfishing business had his ear and told him to override the council.

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And since the fluke thing happened in New Jersey, Ross has had his grubby hands all over Snapper management.

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Edited: 07/18/2019 at 11:30 AM by scombrid

Bullshit!

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Dude... time to stop bro.

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Well, now that the esteemed oceanographic authority Dr. "Jizz Swiller" Cousteau has weighed in with his eduhmacated clueless botspew.......
Hey goobersquid: post more pix of rotting bloated poached grouper, oh
mighty advocate of florida's priceless natural resources.
Little chickenshit can't even reel in her own fish.
Needs an electric reel.....
Couldn't take a raccoon or a pig without a wizbang 10k laser sight, right altbreit?
Pathetic loser ass weakling
Yep: stfu alright ignorant, lyin little fella
glub, glub glub
should we let him for air?
watch this space, I'm just getting started on this magat swampscum tourist.....


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It's a democratic hoax

Edited: 07/18/2019 at 04:55 PM by nukeh2o

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Dude, just stop...

How deep do you need the hole to be?

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I was right.

Yo.....SHITFORBRAINS!

That bullshit didnt work for fishbuttplug....

What makes you think it will work for your pathological lying ass?

MORON!

I will say...THIS was EPIC stupidity!



FOOL!

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Edited: 07/19/2019 at 07:09 AM by Fish Killer

Dude.. just stop already. You're embarassing yourself publicly.

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Good lord. Fish Killer wants to be mad at science so he's gonna be mad at science. What a dumb toddler.

Yo.....SHITFORBRAINS!

That bullshit didnt work for IQ79....

What makes you think it will work for your POS sig-copying ass?

Moron!

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Science. It's not for the persistently stupid. As invasive species, he would be upset.

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Dude stop- I know you failed science class all the way up to when you quit school at 3rd Grade, but let it go. They are much much smarter than you.


LOL you are so dumb you don't even remember that *I* made that sig- you are just helping spread the image of a jailed Lyin Fish.

How can you type from behind those bars?

I don't think Obama and Comey are ever gonna let you out bro- Hillary has to approve it, and she says- "let that BMI 79 dumbass rot in there..."


BLAM!





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Edited: 07/19/2019 at 10:49 AM by fishkller

And still the fool continues. Fish Fucker, how many times do you have to be shutdown till you finally give up?

I'm saying it will never happen. Your fucked up personality won't permit it.

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STFU COLESLAW!

FUCKING PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!

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I rest my case.

FK is one fukked up individual. Seriously flawed.

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STFU COLESLAW!

FUCKING PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!


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Ever tried meds?

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I was right.

Ever tried not lying?

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100% truth.

Nice diversion. KoL

King of Liars.

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Ever try not lying...COLESALW?

Pathological Liar to the extreme!

Maybe you should TRY to claim that Saul Alinsky's play book is Trumps!

That would be the LIE OF THE YEAR!

Go ahead...COLESLAW!

TRY IT!



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Maybe you should TRY to claim that Saul Alinsky's play book is Trumps!

"A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news.

Yep, a new cluster fuck every two days.

Pure Trump. Thanks FK for showing us the real truth. And what do you know, you didn't lie for once! Great job dick head!

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I was right.

Hey Chickenshit Pilchard:
what color is Your buttplug?
Florida has an actual conservative republican governor now:
Who:
omg, omg! Actually wants to help conserve and heal my florida's priceless natural resources!
Among his first acts in office: appointed a chief science officer!
And replaced all of pig sugar ricks corrupt water management district scumbags.
With people who actually care about this state....
Omg, omg: what if this becomes a nationwide trend, huh?

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It's a democratic hoax

Well you DID lie.

SHITFORBRAINS!

Saul Alinsky's list has NOTHING to do with Trump...

FACT!

It's an Obama and Clinton thing!

ALSO FACT!

Been proved over the last 8 years ad nauseam!

FACT!

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Edited: 07/19/2019 at 08:24 PM by Fish Killer

All caps baby----------------> FK

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I was right.

Been using them since day 1.

SHITFORBRAINS!

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He's one of those guys who pathologically needs to have the last word.. otherwise he melts down..

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Well...YOU could always contribute to Coleslaws LIE OF THE YEAR....

Oh wait...you already did!

Fool!

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See what I mean?

There he goes again..



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Edited: 07/19/2019 at 04:27 PM by Fish Killer

You have to appreciate the lyin fish. Hates science and criticizes what he does not understand. That's the thing about lyin fish, they are always doing their worst in places they shouldn't be.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Aud nauseum. That's rich.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I dunno.. sure seems like Trump's playbook to me


I think you got your secret conspiracy texts mixed up Lyin Flush..

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Keep up your lying and you will overtake pathological liar Coleslaw.

FACT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

See - you DO need to have the last word.. I was right hahaha

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...it's YOu who has to have the last word...

You're still spouting shit!

No end in sight!

COLESLAW AWARD WINNER!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

see.. I'm right

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Nope...I'm right.

SHITFORBRAINS II.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 07/19/2019 at 09:12 PM by Fish Killer

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

dienskxy

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Hahaha u just can't do it can ya?

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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