It's not only on this forum, but it's actually on the same thread

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Did a little reading of some actual news analysis type articles. It does seem that Trump is in fact "in a hard spot". How do you feel about $150 a barrel oil? And, the Saudis are a pretty big partner when it comes to controlling Iran.

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What exactly would you progs have Trump do here? BTW, any reason you progs aren't experiencing your patented hysteria over journalists killed by the Venezuelan gov't? Yeah, this is BS. If this had happened under Obama, y'all would have not said a word.

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SOCHI, Russia (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia did not have enough information about the unexplained disappearance of a Saudi journalist to justify spoiling ties with Riyadh.

Turkey says Jamal Khashoggi, a Washington Post columnist who was critical of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, was killed by Saudi agents in Riyadh's diplomatic mission in Istanbul on Oct. 2 and his body cut up. Saudi Arabia denies the allegation.

Putin told a discussion forum in the Black Sea resort of Sochi that Moscow did not really know what had happened in the case, that it was a pity that the journalist had gone missing, and that Russia would wait for details.

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Silicon Valley hoped the Khashoggi story would go away; instead, it may end an era

Connie Loizos@cookie / 19 hours ago

It's amazing how quickly things can change. Exactly a week ago, we wondered if Saudi Arabia's money might finally become radioactive in light of the disappearance of Saudi journalist and Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi. Almost no one we reached for comment wanted to participate in the story, though behind the scenes, we heard the same things from different sources who have a vested interest in keeping the peace with the country and its Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman: There is no proof. We're waiting to see what happens. You're naive if you think this is the only regime that both funds Silicon Valley and tortures its own people. I would rather scale my company using Saudi money then cap my opportunity by trying to ensure that my funding sources are pure.

In fairness, Silicon Valley companies are used to getting away with a lot. Outrage over one perceived calamity often dissipates quickly as it's replaced by another. No doubt a week ago, there was an expectation that the media would move on from the journalist who vanished inside the Saudi consulate in Turkey one October afternoon.

Yet the Khashoggi story has not faded away. In stark contrast, it just became so graphic that to ignore it is no longer an option. Consider: According to a senior Turkish official who earlier today described details from audio recordings to the New York Times, almost immediately after Khashoggi walked into the consulate, Saudi agents seized him and began to beat him and torture him, cutting off his fingers as he screamed, then cutting off his head and dismembering his body. According to this same Turkish official, it was suggested by a doctor of forensics who'd been brought along for the dissection that the agents put on headphones and listen to music as they worked.

That isn't enough for President Trump, who has defended the crown prince, known as MBS, as having been unfairly accused. However, SoftBank - the Japanese conglomerate that has been shoveling billions of Saudi dollars into tech and other companies - seems to be having second thoughts. According to the Financial Times, SoftBank's COO Marcelo Claure has said for the first time that there is "no certainty" that SoftBank will launch another Vision Fund, the $93 billion vehicle it is currently investing and that received roughly half of its capital from MBS and company.

SoftBank is "watching developments" to "see where this goes," Claure added.

If SoftBank or other recipients of Saudi Arabia's capital are hoping for a surprising turn of events, they should watch what they wish for. If there's a twist at all, it may well be that a journalist who many in Silicon Valley had never heard of until two weeks ago causes its long economic boom to bust.

It may sound far-fetched; it isn't. A huge percentage of the money flowing into Silicon Valley in recent years has come from the kingdom. That's been just fine with founders and investors, who've grown fat and happy off that flow of capital. Indeed, while some have suggested these sophisticated businesspeople were somehow tricked by the charming prince, it's more likely they had a different rationale: that if and when the market turned, it would be Saudi Arabia left holding the bag.

In the meantime, that money has sustained countless startups with round after round of funding. In tandem, round sizes have gone up. The amount of money that VCs manage has gone up. The number of years that it takes venture-backed companies to go public has gone up. In many ways, Saudi Arabia has changed the very nature of the venture industry.

Without those riches - and it's going to be pretty hard to return to that well anytime soon - startups will have to look elsewhere.

Some might try their luck on the public markets. Others may have to settle for smaller valuations. Presumably, some will fail, at long last.

It could well be the end of an era, and how strange to think it started when one man entered a consulate to obtain marriage license papers, never to be seen again.

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How many wrongs make a right? Constant defense of illegal, immoral, unethical acts. Yea but Hillary. More lame by the day.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Has nothing to do with wrong or right. It has to do with progs thinking that they can hurt Trump through this somehow. We all know that.

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These liberals the same liberals who didn't give a shit about our embassy being burnt to the ground and four Americans being killed in the process, including a U.S. Ambassador, in Benghazi? I don't remember any of you demanding what Obama was going to do about that.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I was totally appalled by this as well as the fact the GOP cut embassy security budgets that lead to this tragedy then tried to pinthe cause on scapegoat meanwhile wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on bogus hearings. Long story short Obama couldn't do anything, he was blocked by a GOP majority. Learn buddy, learn. Get off that FAUX news.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 10/19/2018 at 05:41 AM by Sniper

Reputable source, please for what you are referring to. Democrats held the Senate.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...mbassy_n_1954912.html

And American military at embassies and consulates are there to protect information, not people. The host country usually dictates the rules for those who guard them.

You attacked Clinton for years over Benghazi and you don't even know the basic facts?

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And no, Democrats did not hold the senate.

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GOP held house majority at the time of the budget cuts, but then when they gained control of it all they did the hearings to cover their asses and to destroy Clinton. They knew she would be the next President. But here is the budget info, came from the horses mouth.

https://thehill.com/video/house/261153--rep-chaffetz-white-house-claiming-ignorance-on-warning-about-libya-attack-is-totally-not-true

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-10-11/libya-security-rep-jason-chaffetz-admits-voting-cut-funding-embassy-security

There is video of hims saying this as well out there on the news.

The final bill, which passed in 2012 was about $280 million less than what the Obama administration had requested due to the GOP House.

There you have it. If you search gov docs you can find this info.