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Topic Title: Obamacare ruled unconstitutional by Texas judge
Topic Summary: Awwwwwww....darn! It's imploding! But nobody could have seen that commung. :-0 (NOT!)
Created On: 12/14/2018 07:39 PM
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 12/16/2018 01:14 PM
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WG

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Trump Fish Killer Says:
Now Congress must pass a STRONG law that provides GREAT healthcare and protects pre-existing conditions. Mitch and Nancy, get it done!"


Come on Trumpers. Tell me how that is supposed to work.


Ask most of the industrialized world how they manage it.


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 12/16/2018 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole

Can a circuit judge overrule the SCOTUS?


One other thing dipshit....

Congress signed a tax law last year that included removing the 'individual mandate' from Obamacare.

By removing the 'individual mandate' Congress effectively changed/altered the foundation of Obamacare that actually made it a tax (SCOTUS Roberts ruling that Obamacare was a tax).

It's NOT a tax any more....thus it's un-constitutional.

ANY MORON CAN SEE THIS!

Idiot!


Let me get this straight, Republicans, including Trump passed a bill that effectively kills healthcare for millions and yet they don't have a replacement?

And Trump and Republicans see this as a win? Really?

Now I can see why so many Republicans in the House jumped ship. Good God, there won't be a Republican left anywhere come the next election when this shit hits the fan.



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Edited: 12/16/2018 at 03:22 PM by Cole
 12/16/2018 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole
Let me get this straight, Republicans, including Trump passed a bill that effectively kills healthcare for millions


NO...Republicans removed the PART of Obamacare that was UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

IE: ILLEGAL!

IDIOT!

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 12/16/2018 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by: WG
Originally posted by: scombrid
Trump Fish Killer Says: Now Congress must pass a STRONG law that provides GREAT healthcare and protects pre-existing conditions. Mitch and Nancy, get it done!"
Come on Trumpers. Tell me how that is supposed to work.
Ask most of the industrialized world how they manage it.
I want to know how the Trump base thinks it is supposed to work. How do you force insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions without any way to pay for it? Show me the math.

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 12/16/2018 06:53 PM
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EMTALA and forcing insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions with no individual mandate. Come on Trumpsters; show me how that is to be funded.

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 12/17/2018 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole

Let me get this straight, Republicans, including Trump passed a bill that effectively kills healthcare for millions




NO...Republicans removed the PART of Obamacare that was UNCONSTITUTIONAL!



IE: ILLEGAL!



IDIOT!


Now you are saying the SCOTUS doesn't have the final say, considering they said it was Constitutional?

But as Scombrid keeps asking, how is this new decision to be funded? And what are those of us who use the ACA supposed to do for insurance? I am a responsible American, I want to pay my own way and have no desire to buck the system for my family and I to survive...unfortunately, it's looking like Republicans are forcing me into that corner.

Answers please.



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 12/17/2018 07:11 AM
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FK - Can you ever make a point without yelling and screaming like a 5 year old?

Can you ever make a valid contribution to a conversation without calling people an idiot or a fool?

Seriously... you come off like a maniac.

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 12/17/2018 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Now you are saying the SCOTUS doesn't have the final say, considering they said it was Constitutional?


NO...SCOTUS said it was a TAX!

The judge said thyat the TAX is unconstitutional and the TAX had been removed by Congress....

Soooooo...therefore Obamacare is NO LONGER a TAX.....

Congress regulated the TAX part GONE!

Therefore it was Congress that sunk Obamacare!

NOT SCOTUS!

SCOTUS will have no justifiable reason (ie: NO FINAL SAY) to vote any other way about Obamacare....as in....IT'S GONE!

If anyone with half a brain can see...it's no longer a TAX!

Even your lame as shit liberal side of SCOTUS will have no choice but to vote it down!

FACT!

Obamacare is DONE!


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 12/17/2018 10:43 AM
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 12/17/2018 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer "Now Congress must pass a STRONG law that provides GREAT healthcare and protects pre-existing conditions.
How do you propose to pay for that?

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 12/17/2018 10:59 AM
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Got it.
C'mon guys, don't they give you an answer for questions like that?
is it "don't answer", change the subject, or build a wall?

I now predict, via time travel, that he will combine the first two,
thus building his wall against reason.

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Edited: 12/17/2018 at 11:02 AM by WG
 12/17/2018 11:00 AM
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It did all of those.

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 12/17/2018 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer Healthcare IS NOT a 'right' and never will be!
That being the case. Congress has no reason to "protect pre-existing conditions" as you demand in the opening post.

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 12/17/2018 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish KillerPresident Trump tweeted following the ruling. "Now Congress must pass a STRONG law that provides GREAT healthcare and protects pre-existing conditions.
1. How are you going to pay for it? 2. Health care is not a right so why should Congress pass a law that provides anything?

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 12/17/2018 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



Now you are saying the SCOTUS doesn't have the final say, considering they said it was Constitutional?


NO...SCOTUS said it was a TAX!
The judge said thyat the TAX is unconstitutional and the TAX had been removed by Congress....
Soooooo...therefore Obamacare is NO LONGER a TAX.....
Congress regulated the TAX part GONE!
Therefore it was Congress that sunk Obamacare!
NOT SCOTUS!
SCOTUS will have no justifiable reason (ie: NO FINAL SAY) to vote any other way about Obamacare....as in....IT'S GONE!
If anyone with half a brain can see...it's no longer a TAX!
Even your lame as shit liberal side of SCOTUS will have no choice but to vote it down!

FACT!
Obamacare is DONE!


Republicans found a judge that would do their bidding and got the ACA thrown out. They have no replacement for healthcare and millions will lose their insurance. Once again, how do you see this a a good thing for Republicans in the next election?

One a second note, Republicans will have to have the House to get anything passed from here on out. Will Republicans bend to the will of the people or will they be relegated to the failing part of history books?

Is this the opening salvo for single payer health plans?



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Edited: 12/17/2018 at 04:01 PM by Cole
 12/17/2018 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: Cole







Now you are saying the SCOTUS doesn't have the final say, considering they said it was Constitutional?





NO...SCOTUS said it was a TAX!

The judge said thyat the TAX is unconstitutional and the TAX had been removed by Congress....

Soooooo...therefore Obamacare is NO LONGER a TAX.....

Congress regulated the TAX part GONE!

Therefore it was Congress that sunk Obamacare!

NOT SCOTUS!

SCOTUS will have no justifiable reason (ie: NO FINAL SAY) to vote any other way about Obamacare....as in....IT'S GONE!

If anyone with half a brain can see...it's no longer a TAX!

Even your lame as shit liberal side of SCOTUS will have no choice but to vote it down!



FACT!

Obamacare is DONE!




Republicans found a judge that would do their bidding and got the ACA thrown out. They have no replacement for healthcare and millions will lose their insurance. Once again, how do you see this a a good thing for Republicans in the next election?



One a second note, Republicans will have to have the House to get anything passed from here on out. Will Republicans bend to the will of the people or will they be relegated to the failing part of history books?



Is this the opening salvo for single payer health plans?


Listen buttwipe!

You can armchair quarterback all you like BUT know this...you have been WRONG on every one of your predictions with Trump so far!

You haven't made ONE correct prediction yet.

Soooo little man...why dont you sit down and STFU!

You have no business opening your BIG fat mouth!

FOOL!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 12/17/2018 07:35 PM
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Hell, what haven't I been right on; from a stimulus tax cut that heats the economy so it has to be cooled by interest rate hikes, to multiple arrests and convictions, to meetings with Assange (said that one in 2016), to flopping with NK and tariffs taking a bite out of the economy. My new predictions: The economy output falls below three percent, Trump's kids make the headlines in negative fashion and Trump tells more lies.

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 12/17/2018 08:01 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Hell, what haven't I been right on


Post where you predicted it!

Liar!

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 12/18/2018 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



Hell, what haven't I been right on




Post where you predicted it!



Liar!


Everyday for the last two years.

A two page note for a nuclear deal with North Korea, tariffs with no legislation, "I know more than the generals!", a massive unfunded tax cut, poorly executed executive orders, love for dictators. . .I mean seriously, this shit isn't hard to predict.



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 12/18/2018 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: Fish Killer Healthcare IS NOT a 'right' and never will be!
That being the case. Congress has no reason to "protect pre-existing conditions" as you demand in the opening post.


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