"Can you really look them in the eye and say, 'No, sorry, I couldn't do anything because that country over there didn't do anything, so if they're not going to do it then I'm not.' That is shameful and that is cowardly," Margolin (17 years old) said.

The GOP has no problem being cowardly on this and lots of other topics.

NPR story where that quote is from

Edited: 09/23/2019 at 12:03 PM by Greensleeves

It is pretty recovered as it is. But, for the things you guys are concerned with, getting rid of humans will help.

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I :heart; Q

tspank getting stupid as usual. the only thing that is going extinct is the GOP. And the sooner the better.

For instance, Graves agrees with President Trump on the need to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris climate agreement. Graves told the student organizers the pact allows China to continue emitting more carbon dioxide while the U.S. cuts emissions. "Paris and its related pledges would undermine U.S. competitiveness," his spokesman said........... Graves got immediate pushback from the young activists, including 17-year-old Jamie Margolin from Seattle, who asked how Graves will respond to questions from his children and grandchildren about whether he did enough to address climate change...... "Can you really look them in the eye and say, 'No, sorry, I couldn't do anything because that country over there didn't do anything, so if they're not going to do it then I'm not.' That is shameful and that is cowardly," Margolin said.......... The 17 year old economist? Biologist? Scientist? Oh, activist..... Not only doesn't she know what the Paris reductions would do to our economy, she doesn't care...What I will tell my children and grandchildren is that back in the early part of the century, teenage activists were demanding that we listen to their hysterical demands instead of to Logical economic sense, IF we had listened to the teenagers, NONE OF YOU would ever exist, What the activist also doesn't care about, is that if her demands are met, she will not even have children or grand children to tell her side of the story. After all part of their demands seem to be mandatory sterilization and mandatory population reduction..... I will tell my kids your great-grand father fought the NAZIS, your grand father fought the Communists and all we had to battle were teenage hysterics and socialist all so that you can live free in America...

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Is nobodyelse choosing world destruction for a few dollars more? Or is he just angry because he can't get a straw anymore?

Sterilization? Nobodyelse thinks the 17 year old wants to sterilize people? where the f did they get that from?

It also appears they equate working to battle climate change with an assault on "living free" which has got to be one of the more stupid and alarmist arguments out there. A bit too much right wing radio for that one?

It's starting to seem like the both of them are just contrarian-programmed bots

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"It's starting to seem like the both of them are just contrarian-programmed bots"

Nice! But wouldn't a well programmed bot with any dignity shut itself down or self destruct after the repeated shaming and general daily humiliation the botGOP group experiences?

More than likely these bots were developed by C- students with a base program of 1) no fact based intelligence, 2) no AI, 3) a desire to get punched in the stomach and 4) a Life Alert/Ensure user personality.


Edited: 09/24/2019 at 04:02 AM by Greensleeves

Greensleeves: It also appears they equate working to battle climate change with an assault on "living free" which has got to be one of the more stupid and alarmist arguments out there. A bit too much right wing radio for that one?......Rusty Truck:.. We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality -Mikhail Bakunin....................Somebodyelse: So we partially agree with Bakunin..... Liberty can lead to Privilege and injustice and Socialism Does lead to slavery and brutality...............We just believe it is FAR BETTER to NOT have SLAVERY and BRUTALITY........ So when teenage hysterics demand socialist responses to environmental problems and dumb ass internet trolls support them...........We rightly equate the battle about what to do about climate change with an assault on living free...... THAT is the only real argument...... The teenage demands are about and lead to Socialist control, which directly leads to slavery and brutality......

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You should read Bakunin and then share your [ahem] analysis.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

I think TpaBot is simply programmed to spew silly non-science and FK-esque angry contrarian rambling. It also seems like they programmed in an odd self-fellating/backpatting protocol, perhaps wishfully thinking it might impress someone other than itself(?)

There is no indication that the bot has any introspective ability or subroutines, thus it would just continue on without any inclination as to how it is, in reality, fodder for our ridicule.

Eventually the bot "breaks down" or becomes a self-parody as it gets more and more out of sync with reality- it becomes so out of phase with the current times that its output becomes practically illegible - you can see those effects already happening today.

It never actually stops outputting gibberish until its physical components fry out (not that much longer to go) regardless of how many times it is exposed as a fraud, because it has a predisposed addiction to /desire for the attention of the truly intelligent and human (which it is designed to objectify/dehumanize as "prog" or "liberal" in a self preservation/survival mechanism).

It will endlessly and desperately seek this attention, whether positive or (almost always) negative, until its circuits finally fry due to overexposure of swampy Mims air and it flops over into a heap of pig dung, its hands still plunking out the words "I was right" until the finger gears eventually seize up.



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Edited: 09/24/2019 at 06:59 AM by fishkller

That shoe fits him.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

via GIPHY

I didn't read any of this thread, nor tpaps article, because the thread title is so fucking stupid.

But I'm now resigned that more nuclear is going to have to be a big part of the green power revolution,

Renewables are the future, but the deployment rate can't be fast enough.
It's too late, we argued and waited too long.

New Nuclear technologies can be far safer than the crap we built in the last century.
We need the next generation of Nuclear power to be starting to deploy in 10 years, and to replace about 50% of fossils in 20 yrs (renewables will replace the rest).

Why not follow the opiate model, make those that lied about this addiction pay for fixing it to.?



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Why not follow the opiate model, make those that lied about this addiction pay for fixing it to.? ..................................This is the reason we shouldn't destroy the economy to patch the problem.... WE NEED the economy to produce enough to fix the problem and create the alternatives. How do you build enough nuclear power stations without the tax base and infrastructure that our present economy provides.......All we hear from the liberals is tear it down...stop everything NOW or the world will end............NO...NO... we need the running powerful economy to fix it, to replace it, to clean it up...........Do NOT destroy the only hope we have of fixing the problem.............

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Reckon that's what you hear.

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What does the truth look like to someone whose livelihood depends on the lie?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

What does the truth look like to someone whose livelihood depends on the lie................we Conservatives will never know that answer........ask anybody who signed for the NEW GREEN DEAL....

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