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 10/11/2019 06:51 AM
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Sniper

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There is our proof that you don't know why you are trying to impeach Trump.

Cole, you are a perfect example of someone who is uber over-opinionated and uber under-informed. You are exactly the demographic that the Democrats are going for.

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 10/11/2019 06:53 AM
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There is evidence that trump withheld the release of funds in exchange for the investigation - this is the basis of the whistleblowers' complaints. On top of that, soliciting foreign assistance to interfere with an election is illegal. The WH issued an incomplete transcript of the call. If there is nothing to hide, why not be transparent? This is pretty black/white, yet dotards keep dotarding.

Why don't you buffoons wear your trump gear out in public? I know why - because you don't want the world to know you are fucking stupid...

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 10/11/2019 06:53 AM
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Who's going to be first? There has to be some brave dem out there who will denounce the progs and their plans as nuts. Actually, quite a few have already. Let's hope that these people are too far gone to listen.

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 10/11/2019 06:54 AM
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Oh look, a dotard calling someone nuts...LMFAO...

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 10/11/2019 06:58 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: wtf

There is evidence that trump withheld the release of funds in exchange for the investigation - this is the basis of the whistleblowers' complaints. On top of that, soliciting foreign assistance to interfere with an election is illegal. The WH issued an incomplete transcript of the call. If there is nothing to hide, why not be transparent? This is pretty black/white, yet dotards keep dotarding.

Why don't you buffoons wear your trump gear out in public? I know why - because you don't want the world to know you are fucking stupid...


But Ukraine got the funds...what did Trump get in return?

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“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 10/11/2019 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by: wtf

There is evidence that trump withheld the release of funds in exchange for the investigation


Liar!

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 10/11/2019 07:01 AM
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Trump ran a mafia operation using his personal attorney outside of legitimate state department channels to withhold critical assistance to Ukraine which was approved by Congress in order to leverage them to harm his political rival. That's an abuse of power all day long. Now by refusing to cooperate with the Constitutionally mandated oversight of Congress, he's obstructing justice.

When the ambassador objected she was removed. Various trump capos like the envoy to the EU (big trump donor placed in a patronage job) was in on it, and probably a host of other trump loyalists.



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 10/11/2019 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

There is our proof that you don't know why you are trying to impeach Trump.



Cole, you are a perfect example of someone who is uber over-opinionated and uber under-informed. You are exactly the demographic that the Democrats are going for.


I just gave you nine or ten reasons and we still don't have all the info, so there is a better than not chance there will be more.

From the FEC chair.

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 10/11/2019 07:22 AM
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IF you are loyal or stupid enough to think that trump cared about Ukraine's corruption, he would have used the state department and done it all in the sunlight. He didn't because there was nothing there. He used his personal lawyer and got a bunch of conspiracy theories that only got less attractive as the the two people helping him just got arrested with one way tickets out of the country. This was, of course, fresh off a lunch with Rudy at trump tower. Spin that.

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 10/11/2019 07:34 AM
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I don't really see a problem with Trump paying his personal attorney to investigate something. I also don't think he owed it to the country to tell them how he was looking into all the details of what happened in the 2020 election. Remember when all you guys laughed at Trump when he said his campaign was being spied on? He might be setting you up to look stupid again.

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“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 10/11/2019 at 07:35 AM by Sniper
 10/11/2019 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

I don't really see a problem with Trump paying his personal attorney to investigate something. I also don't think he owed it to the country to tell them how he was looking into all the details of what happened in the 2020 election. Remember when all you guys laughed at Trump when he said his campaign was being spied on? He might be setting you up to look stupid again.


Is there ever a time you don't try to change the subject? S-fish for sure. lol



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 10/11/2019 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Trump ran a mafia operation using his personal attorney outside of legitimate state department channels to withhold critical assistance to Ukraine which was approved by Congress in order to leverage them to harm his political rival. That's an abuse of power all day long. Now by refusing to cooperate with the Constitutionally mandated oversight of Congress, he's obstructing justice.

When the ambassador objected she was removed. Various trump capos like the envoy to the EU (big trump donor placed in a patronage job) was in on it, and probably a host of other trump loyalists.


LOL, this is TOO good. So, Trump is running a "mafia operation" even though Ukraine got the assistance and Trump received nothing in return? Meanwhile, Biden did get something in return for the funds he held over Ukraine's head, while his son was running around with Whitey Bulger's family as a business partner and ALL you MF'ers are going to vote for him. Replace Hunter Biden with ANY of Trump's kids and you people would be having a shit-fit.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 10/11/2019 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper


But Ukraine got the funds...what did Trump get in return?


HAHAHA! NOTHING!

Because he knew he was caught

If the PGIC is sooo innocent, why does he keep hiding the requested information that would exonerate him?

Why does he continually obstruct justice?

Why does he continually attack the Bidens? (hint: deflection of his own guiltiness)

Why did he order Ambassador Sondland to defy a subpoena (via Barr and the Justice Dept) to testify in front of Congress? (obstruction of a coequal branch of government.)

C'mon, Snipe, you gotta do better than that...

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 10/11/2019 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Sniper

I don't really see a problem with Trump paying his personal attorney to investigate something. I also don't think he owed it to the country to tell them how he was looking into all the details of what happened in the 2020 election. Remember when all you guys laughed at Trump when he said his campaign was being spied on? He might be setting you up to look stupid again.


Is there ever a time you don't try to change the subject? S-fish for sure. lol


Here is a question that is very much on the subject, Cole. Please tell me which crime you would like to see Trump impeached for? Campaign finance law? Obstructing justice on a matter where no crime was found?

Here's the deal. The Democrats know that if you look hard enough, you can probably find something illegal that ALL of us have done, so they are banking on the odds that if they can keep the investigations going that eventually they will find something. They don't care if it has anything to do with how the investigation began. Trump should obstruct. Why should he help them? Why should he help them live out their Stalinist policies laid out by Stalin's Head of Secret Police, Lavrentiy Beria, when he said, "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."? Stalin would be very proud of you guys.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 10/11/2019 08:03 AM
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They were 7 months late in releasing the funds to Ukraine. Timing on this phone call and everything else show that Trump was pushing for info on Biden in exchange for the support. Funds were released right about the time this whistle blower thing started happening. Go figure.
 10/11/2019 08:06 AM
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Sniper must have been to Egypt recently since he knows so much about denial.

The jig is up. R's can refuse to honor the Constitution, but then it's up to the american people if they want to continue this so called experiment in democracy. If they choose to have a corrupt dictator then so be it.
And, should there be an economic downturn, I think the emperor's clothes will look much less new.

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 10/11/2019 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: wtf

There is evidence that trump withheld the release of funds in exchange for the investigation


But Ukraine got the funds...what did Trump get in return?


Yeah Trump and Truly Giuli released the money when they found out the dems we're coming after them.

A little too little to do the right thing now!

What did Trump get in return?
That's the thing...
He shouldn't get anything in return personally.
He should have US interests in mind, not himself.
 10/11/2019 08:30 AM
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Are any of you Stalinists going to say which crime you plan on impeaching Trump for?

I don't think Pelosi wants to impeach because she knows it won't stick. Otherwise, she would take it to a vote in the house and go for it. She wants to make it look like impeachment and she wants the media to talk about it non stop but she knows they don't have the goods.



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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 10/11/2019 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

Are any of you Stalinists going to say which crime you plan on impeaching Trump for?



I don't think Pelosi wants to impeach because she knows it won't stick. Otherwise, she would take it to a vote in the house and go for it. She wants to make it look like impeachment and she wants the media to talk about it non stop but she knows they don't have the goods.


There will be many articles of impeachment when it gets to it.

1. CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATION
2. BRIBERY
3. HONEST SERVICES FRAUD
4. EXTORTION
5. WITNESS INTIMIDATION
6. OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE (VARIOUS ACCOUNTS)
7. CONSPIRACY
8. PROFITING FROM THE PRESIDENCY
9. ADVOCATING POLITICAL AND POLICE VIOLENCE
10. ABUSE OF POWER
11. ENGAGING IN RECKLESS CONDUCT
12. PERSECUTING POLITICAL OPPONENTS
13. ATTACKING FREE PRESS
14. VIOLATING IMMIGRANTS' RIGHTS TO DUE PROCESS
15. ATTEMPTED BLACKMAIL

This list is just the things I can think of. Who knows what legal professionals could pin on him.

 10/11/2019 10:05 AM
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Fish Killer

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Yo...SHITFORBRAINS...

Got any actual LAWS that Trump violated?

CITE THEM!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
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