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Topic Title: So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...
Topic Summary: Its not enough beach renourishment.
Created On: 02/14/2024 11:10 AM
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 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - johnnyboy - 02/14/2024 11:10 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - 910surfer - 02/14/2024 03:05 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - nukeh2o - 02/14/2024 05:26 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - garcia - 02/14/2024 06:38 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - ww - 02/14/2024 08:41 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - nukeh2o - 02/14/2024 09:04 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - johnnyboy - 02/15/2024 07:20 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - CurtisEflush - 02/15/2024 08:15 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - LBLarry - 02/16/2024 11:16 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - ww - 02/16/2024 06:12 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - LBLarry - 02/17/2024 06:45 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - Cole - 02/17/2024 09:20 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - tom - 02/18/2024 03:03 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - Cole - 02/18/2024 11:32 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - JOESTRUMMER - 02/18/2024 01:51 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - seaspray - 02/20/2024 06:18 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - dingpatch - 02/20/2024 03:50 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - tpapablo - 02/19/2024 01:30 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - ww - 02/19/2024 02:41 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - JOESTRUMMER - 02/19/2024 08:00 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - dingpatch - 02/20/2024 03:50 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - Dahui321 - 02/23/2024 01:32 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - Central Floridave - 02/23/2024 08:08 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - Central Floridave - 02/23/2024 08:09 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - SurfCaster - 03/01/2024 11:32 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - Cole - 03/02/2024 09:37 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - RobdaSlob - 02/23/2024 12:08 PM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - fishkller - 02/19/2024 12:15 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - dingpatch - 02/19/2024 06:20 AM  
 So its not coastal erosion for rich people who live on the beach...   - johnnyboy - 02/22/2024 11:30 AM  
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johnnyboy

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Its more sand for the sea turtle nesting season.

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I don' think that almost anything that comes from media can be trusted anymore. A great lesson that covid taught me.
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Originally posted by: 910surfer

I don' think that almost anything that comes from media can be trusted anymore. A great lesson that covid taught me.


Yup....tourist millionaires demanding their foolishly planned and built qondos on the the dune line be rescued....at taxpayer expense (aka: US!), at the expense of our priceless surf and reefs....
again
It's a liberl hoax!
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Edited: 02/14/2024 at 05:27 PM by nukeh2o
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Liberal hoax? That is just plain STUPID. It is a hoax, but one propagated by our willingness to subsidize them with homeowner's insurance. And, please.

BTW- you might consider using spell check. Neither "liberl" nor "qondos: is actually a word. Stupid, just plain stupid, MAGAt.
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A bit separated from shoreline retreat on our coast (rising sea level), the coast from St Augustine to Fort Pierce is mostly stable, unlike much of the US Atlantic coast, where subsidence, often due to groundwater pumping, is widespread. NY Times story, gifted. Interesting big long map.
 02/14/2024 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by: garcia

Liberal hoax? That is just plain STUPID. It is a hoax, but one propagated by our willingness to subsidize them with homeowner's insurance. And, please.
BTW- you might consider using spell check. Neither "liberl" nor "qondos: is actually a word. Stupid, just plain stupid, MAGAt.


Not the bridest blub on the trea, are oui?
Burying our coquina reefs and beloved surf breaks under feet of sand for the hordes of post-covid northern carpetbaggers oozing into my home, for their "freedumb" is qriminal.


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 02/15/2024 07:20 AM
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That shot of Jupiter Inlet colony is an eye opener. I don't know who would ever insure that multi Million dollar beach front speedbump again, but these people are very rich, very connected and completely entitled. I have a a sneaking suspicion that they will be "renourishing" the areas in front of these mistakes.

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 02/15/2024 08:15 AM
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The construction of that pool on pilings at 0:50 says as much about how much money was spent to build it as it says about why it shouldn't have been built in the first place.

Coastal erosion -- who knew? Duh.
 02/16/2024 11:16 AM
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and so castles made of sand, fall into the sea ..... eventually.

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 02/16/2024 06:12 PM
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In Indian River Co., it seems that people owning houses on the barrier island self-insure. They're rich enough to replace whatever's lost. Seawalls have proliferated, so sizable stretches will lack beaches. The non-seawall stretch starting at Wabasso Beach Park is also not encouraging.
 02/17/2024 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by: ww

In Indian River Co., it seems that people owning houses on the barrier island self-insure. They're rich enough to replace whatever's lost. Seawalls have proliferated, so sizable stretches will lack beaches. The non-seawall stretch starting at Wabasso Beach Park is also not encouraging.


and those fucking seawalls will significantly contribute to down drift beach erosion.



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 02/17/2024 09:20 AM
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I am amazed that any beach front condo in Brevard south of Cocoa Beach can get insurance at all. Pour all the dirt you want, it's just a matter of time.

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 02/18/2024 03:03 AM
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ww - It's not just IR county. Informal Mel beach insurance chitchat before yoga, I was surprised by the number of folks opting out of windstorm. "If we get a hurricane, we'll take the hit" seems to be the prevailing "logic". And, if they've gotta renourish, couldn't they at least pile up the sand to make a bunch of temporary mini point breaks? Wouldn't cost extra ... Just saying.

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We pay a premium for insurance, then have to add windstorm and flood. Other than fire, what does regular insurance even cover?

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I have a new start up company and can write you an " Florida Earthquake " policy ASAP .------- And that includes extra Tsunami insurance , that your normal flood insurance might not cover .

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Originally posted by: Cole We pay a premium for insurance, then have to add windstorm and flood. Other than fire, what does regular insurance even cover?
Insurance will cover whatever is the minimum necessary, to keep you in said house, and continue paying the premiums
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Originally posted by: tom ww - It's not just IR county. Informal Mel beach insurance chitchat before yoga, I was surprised by the number of folks opting out of windstorm. "If we get a hurricane, we'll take the hit" seems to be the prevailing "logic". And, if they've gotta renourish, couldn't they at least pile up the sand to make a bunch of temporary mini point breaks? Wouldn't cost extra ... Just saying.
You'd think. The rich surf too, after all.

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    Thinking of tsunami insurance, the tsunami evacuation signs in Vero Beach have disappeared. I can dig up a photo of one. There had been fear that a big volcano in the Canary Islands might catastrophically collapse.
    After a hurricane, I was in line behind two women at Publix or maybe Fresh Market. One was telling the other "It's great to b able to start out with a blank slate" evidently referring to a flooded house at Johns Island, where older houses (going back to the 70s) are supposedly being replaced at a brisk clip. On the good side, most waterfront houses in the Vero area now seem to be new and built to the current elevation standard.
    BTW, was feeling under the weather most of the day. Went to the beach at 3:45 as the sun came out and by 5 was feeling healthy. A group of 4 happy surfers were leaving as I showed up.


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RE: " Thinking of tsunami insurance, the tsunami evacuation signs in Vero Beach have disappeared. I can dig up a photo of one. There had been fear that a big volcano in the Canary Islands might catastrophically collapse. "-----That is indeed a current real fact and still a unknown surprise possible scenario at some point . My know it all brother has been yammering on for years about said fact and potential impending consequences . RE: " Went to the beach at 3:45 as the sun came out and by 5 was feeling healthy " ---

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ww,

That "Canary Island ThingY" would be way, way, beyond "insurance" it would quite literally be "Totally Biblical" !! It has happened before. Look at the "slump" on south of the Big Island. Every-once-in-a-while a good portion of the south shore slips into the Pacific. They figured it out after "fresh" seashells and such were found in New Zealand at like 2000 feet up in the mountains, , , , , it was from the "wash up" from the tsunami !!

The best, only, thing you could do in Florida is be on the Gulf coast and get in a boat and head to the deepest water you can. Take plenty of fishing gear, , , , , ,

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https://www.theinertia.com/surf/chad-nelsen-replenishing-sand-beaches/ Surfrider's thoughts. This is up north. I don't know what our locaL chapter thinks. They have been mute on the Mid Reach.
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Right there in the article...improper grain size distribution kills the surf...likely the culprit for our current situation. The recent dumps have appeared to be more dirt than sand and end up as hard pack. Difficult for sandbars to develop, resulting in the crumble and slam

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Originally posted by: SurfCaster

Right there in the article...improper grain size distribution kills the surf...likely the culprit for our current situation. The recent dumps have appeared to be more dirt than sand and end up as hard pack. Difficult for sandbars to develop, resulting in the crumble and slam


Not to mention that they act like oil and water. Like shaped sand grips together, unlike sands don't. It just slips right off the top and ends up in Sebastian or some other point farther south.



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I have some land inFlagler. Not far from the dune. They are suppose to pump sand there this summer. First of what is suppose to be something like a 50 year contract of sand every 10 years or so. They are also suppose to rebuild the pier - which seems ironic because I always thought piers / jetties contributed to the erosion problem. In Flagler I don't think they have much choice. A1A is exposed and needs to be fortified and with the growth in FL people will demand usable beaches. As far as insurance goes - many of the west palm wealthy have private client insurance. Google it if you don't understand what it is. Bottom line it is custom insurance product for high net worth individual (1 million in liquid assets or more) that like everything when you have money gets you the concierge level care you think you are entitled to.

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Kid's Rock needs HELP!


Kid Rock's Oceanfront Home Hangs In The Balance As Erosion Threatens Coastal Properties



Maybe he can convince Donny Dimwit to come up with a nickname to intimidate the erosion away..

oh wait, I forgot, global warming is a hoax.. ok nothing to see here!

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I can't tell if the Bahamas take the brunt of it and save Palm beach county.

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