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 is Flynn singing?   - tpapablo - 12/06/2017 08:36 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 12/06/2017 08:39 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 12/06/2017 08:42 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 12/06/2017 08:43 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 01/17/2020 05:16 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - johnnyboy - 12/06/2017 08:53 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - WG - 12/06/2017 12:17 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - RustyTruck - 12/06/2017 01:31 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - wtf - 12/06/2017 03:58 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - follydude - 12/09/2017 09:06 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Sniper - 12/09/2017 09:42 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - WG - 12/09/2017 11:02 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - crankit - 12/10/2017 05:09 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - WG - 12/10/2017 08:11 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - surfsail - 12/10/2017 08:52 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - johnnyboy - 01/17/2020 04:59 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - WG - 01/17/2020 08:16 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - johnnyboy - 01/17/2020 11:16 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 01/17/2020 11:51 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 01/17/2020 12:52 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 01/17/2020 12:53 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 01/17/2020 12:55 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 01/17/2020 12:57 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 01/17/2020 01:09 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 01/17/2020 03:25 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 01/18/2020 12:04 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 01/18/2020 08:28 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - cheaterfiveo - 02/02/2020 03:48 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 02/02/2020 04:21 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 02/02/2020 04:22 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 02/02/2020 08:41 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 02/02/2020 08:41 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 02/02/2020 08:41 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - Fish Killer - 02/02/2020 08:41 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 02/03/2020 04:50 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - fishkller - 01/17/2020 07:01 PM  
 is Flynn singing?   - johnnyboy - 02/03/2020 04:59 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - HAPDigital - 02/03/2020 05:30 AM  
 is Flynn singing?   - fishkller - 02/03/2020 06:31 AM  
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WG

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"We know from public reports that Flynn has a ton of criminal exposure, and yet he's pleading guilty to a relatively minor crime," Savannah Law School professor Andy Wright told my colleague Sean Illing. "I'm confident Flynn is singing like a bird to Mueller." (Eight other law professors made similar arguments to Illing.)

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Not so sure: Preet Bharara, the former US attorney for the Southern District of New York who was fired by President Trump earlier this year.

One possibility, he suggests, is that Mueller doesn't have anything else on Flynn that might stand up in court: "People need to really consider the possibility that this might be it."

But Bharara also suggests another scenario: that Mueller is "holding back on other charges to which Michael Flynn will plead guilty if and when they form the basis of charging some other folks."
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Of course he is singing like a bird. That Hap dude told us that way back in May in the "Trump is going down thread."

And to believe I scoffed at him back then.

For those who are interested in the facts, a prosecutor almost always brings the most serious charges against a cooperator like Flynn. If you want to build a case against a higher up, you damn sure don't want to paint one of your future star witnesses as a liar, which is exactly what Mueller did here.



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Originally posted by: tpapablo Of course he is singing like a bird. That Hap dude told us that way back in May in the "Trump is going down thread." And to believe I scoffed at him back then. For those who are interested in the facts, a prosecutor almost always brings the most serious charges against a cooperator like Flynn. If you want to build a case against a higher up, you damn sure don't want to paint one of your future star witnesses as a liar, which is exactly what Mueller did here.
Wrong, this is why you get multiple witnesses to cooperate and plenty of financial documents and emails. Flynn is just one piece of the pie. You're not very good at this lawyering thing. All criminals are liars, FYI. That is unless they fessed up immediately which none of them did.
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Flynn is a self admitted and proved liar.

Any testimony from him is worthless!

ANY!




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Originally posted by: Fish Killer Flynn is a self admitted and proved liar. Any testimony from him is worthless! ANY!
Same with you. Spreads proven lie after lie.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Flynn is a self admitted and proved liar.



Any testimony from him is worthless!



ANY!


Spreads proven lie after lie.


Sooooo....now you are claiming that Flynn ISN'T a proved liar?!?!

You're a special kind of stupid!

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Flynn is a liar. Trump is a liar. Flynn was told to stay strong by Trump because Trump knew Flynn would be offered a plea deal in exchange for his testimony. If you are going to discount everything Flynn said because he pled guilty to lying to the FBI, you might want to consider that the FBI knew what the Truth was when they asked Flynn about his involvement with Kislyak. So Flynn's lies are his crime, the truth is Trump's crime.

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"Donald Trump was just 11 minutes into his presidency when his choice for national security adviser, Michael Flynn, texted a former business partner to say an ambitious U.S. collaboration with Russia to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East was "good to go," according to a new whistleblower account.

As Trump delivered his inaugural address, says the unnamed whistleblower, Flynn directed Alex Copson, managing director of ACU Strategic Partners, to inform their business partners "to put things in place."

The whistleblower also says that Flynn assured Copson that U.S. sanctions on Russia that could block the nuclear project would be "ripped up" once Trump was inside the White House. "


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Originally posted by: WG

"Donald Trump was just 11 minutes into his presidency when his choice for national security adviser, Michael Flynn, texted a former business partner to say an ambitious U.S. collaboration with Russia to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East was "good to go," according to a new whistleblower account.



As Trump delivered his inaugural address, says the unnamed whistleblower, Flynn directed Alex Copson, managing director of ACU Strategic Partners, to inform their business partners "to put things in place."



The whistleblower also says that Flynn assured Copson that U.S. sanctions on Russia that could block the nuclear project would be "ripped up" once Trump was inside the White House. "





nbc




My, my, that sounds like something that might be frowned upon.


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front page sweep?

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Can't take anyone seriously who immediately discounts Breitbart, then turns around and sites Vox.

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Because vox is real journalism and Breitbart is shit?

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And NBC is beyond reproach!



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Compared to Breitbart?
No that's stupid. No comparison.
Don't even try.
If you don't know the difference, you are lost.

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May Mueller is waiting for the donnnald to attempt to pardon Flynn on this petty charge and ge the bloback and then deal with the political consequences..

 

Save the more serious shit for later - not to mention the non federal charges that the donnnald can't do shit about..

 

 

 

 

In any case, Donald's sphincter in is in full tweaking mode as as evident by his desperate attempts to distract the general public and throw some red meat to his base..



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Flynn's choice of lawyers has been interesting. His first choice sought the acknowledge the exposure, admit wrongdoing and cooperate out of a prison sentence. Pretty standard in federal court where there is no discovery and the government can compel any witness to testify or offer any co conspirator plea deals to testify. But then he changed his mind. He started to see how life as a disgraced convicted felon might not be the retirement he had in mind. He fired his lawyers, hired a former federal prosecutor fox pundit with a failed book about prosecutorial over reach and went on scorched earth tour ending with a request to vacate his guilty plea. He paid his savings and retirement to failed writer who recently reinvented herself as a deep state conspiracy theorist who had proof from the inside. She used Flynn to raise her profile and now he will go to prison because she wanted to fight the case in the court of public opinion instead of the court room.

http://www.politico.com/news/m...-legal-strategy-098712

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Will he thank her from jail?

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She has had her 15 minutes, and mostly at his expense, literally and figuratively. He is ultimately responsible for lying after cooperating and he knew what that would mean if he got caught. He gambled big with her and he will lose big with her.

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Flynn is going to jail for lying, not sure how much more guilty or 'proved' liar one can be.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Flynn is going to jail for lying,


...and thats it!

He didn't do ANY of the other crap that YOU claimed!

He was trapped into lying by the FBI/Mueller!

Set up!

No...he's not 'squealing'!

FOOL!

http://thefederalist.com/2019/...trapped-michael-flynn/

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The story has just begun....
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http://thefederalist.com/2019/...trapped-michael-flynn/

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Cry and cry all you guys want. Flynn will be in jail soon.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Cry and cry all you guys want. Flynn will be in jail soon.


Not for ANYTHING you stated!

LIAR!

Also he may actually NOT be going to jail.....even for what he did do!

FOOL!

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Everyone that FK supports that goes to jail is innocent lol. Remember the nazi? lol
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Everyone that FK supports that goes to jail is innocent lol. Remember the nazi? lol


They are going to set you up!

Send your ass to jail!

That day is comming!

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LOL Who is 'they'? LOL

Your true mental colors are shining through...

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Cry and cry all you guys want. Flynn will be in jail soon.


wrong again hey genius?
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LOL he is going to jail. He still has to face that judge to give the sentencing. He was pissed.
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Also, he plea bargained. He had more on his plate than just the charge of lying to the FBI. So there goes that. He is doomed.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

LOL he is going to jail.


Nope!

LIAR!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

LOL he is going to jail.


Nope!

LIAR!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

LOL he is going to jail.


Nope!

LIAR!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

LOL he is going to jail.


Nope!

LIAR!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Looks like I'll need to be photoshopping some new faces into that pirate jail cell sig..

Between Flynn and Roger Stone, will need to expand it horizontally to fit in all these Trumpboon jailbirds!

I thought only immigrant 5 year olds were supposed to be in cages, amiright Trumpatologists??? womp womp

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Federal court is no place for indecision. Flynn had a good plan initially to cooperate and make his stand at sentencing. He abandoned that plan after he pled and hired an attorney more interested in putting herself on prime time fox than having her client eat his vegetables. She went scorched earth and even insinuated that the judge was part of this vast liberal left wing deep state conspiracy. Federal judges are dangerous at sentencing. This judge will not accept a plea unless Flynn says he is guilty so that there will not be a plea. Flynn has done that. Now he's like the pregnant girl teaching birth control as cautionary tale. The plea could be vacated but then the feds would supersede the indictment, add all those charges they passed on for the plea negotiations and go after his son for that bizarre plot to kidnap the Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania that Erdogan believes was behind the failed coup. It will go very badly for Flynn and his lawyer. She thinks she fighting the case in the court of public opinion and she thinks the fox support will push her motions to dismiss through. They won't. The judge will have the final word after the government lays out their case and his lies as proof of the breach of the plea. He will go to prison. My guess is around four years.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Federal court is no place for indecision. Flynn had a good plan initially to cooperate and make his stand at sentencing. He abandoned that plan after he pled and hired an attorney more interested in putting herself on prime time fox than having her client eat his vegetables. She went scorched earth and even insinuated that the judge was part of this vast liberal left wing deep state conspiracy. Federal judges are dangerous at sentencing. This judge will not accept a plea unless Flynn says he is guilty so that there will not be a plea. Flynn has done that. Now he's like the pregnant girl teaching birth control as cautionary tale. The plea could be vacated but then the feds would supersede the indictment, add all those charges they passed on for the plea negotiations and go after his son for that bizarre plot to kidnap the Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania that Erdogan believes was behind the failed coup. It will go very badly for Flynn and his lawyer. She thinks she fighting the case in the court of public opinion and she thinks the fox support will push her motions to dismiss through. They won't. The judge will have the final word after the government lays out their case and his lies as proof of the breach of the plea. He will go to prison. My guess is around four years.


Woah! I was thinking 6 months. Thanks for the legal info. Y
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Wait, so Fish Cheater's BOMBSHELL!!!! is just a bunch of hot air??!??

WHAT THE F...









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