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 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/24/2019 09:26 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/24/2019 11:23 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - fishkller - 09/24/2019 11:32 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/24/2019 12:10 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/24/2019 01:12 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/24/2019 02:06 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - RustyTruck - 09/24/2019 02:18 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/24/2019 02:21 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/24/2019 02:27 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/24/2019 02:28 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/24/2019 02:38 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Sniper - 09/24/2019 02:53 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - scombrid - 09/24/2019 03:24 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Sniper - 09/24/2019 04:03 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Cole - 09/24/2019 04:08 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - fishkller - 09/24/2019 04:11 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/24/2019 04:14 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - fishkller - 09/24/2019 04:29 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Central Floridave - 09/24/2019 04:51 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - nukeh2o - 09/24/2019 05:21 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Sniper - 09/24/2019 07:15 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - fishkller - 09/24/2019 10:49 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - RustyTruck - 09/25/2019 03:25 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - somebodyelse - 09/25/2019 06:38 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Sniper - 09/25/2019 07:08 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Greensleeves - 09/25/2019 07:10 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Sniper - 09/25/2019 07:20 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/25/2019 07:21 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/25/2019 07:26 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/25/2019 07:30 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Zeus - 09/25/2019 08:36 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - johnnyboy - 09/25/2019 08:55 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Fish Killer - 09/25/2019 10:56 AM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Sniper - 09/25/2019 01:39 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - bus - 09/25/2019 01:51 PM  
 Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?   - Greensleeves - 09/25/2019 09:22 AM  
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There's a transcript. Now I guess it's the being blocked for the same reason as his tax returns: nothing to hide.

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Still won't matter to the flock, but this thing is damning.

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A transcript?!?!?!?


It's coming out harder than George Michael. Careless whispers. That's funny.

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Yo....SHITFORBRAINS!

"President Trump said in a tweet that he will release on Wednesday a transcript of his phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which they reportedly discussed an investigation involving Joe Biden."

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Is Barr going to give us the "summarized" version? LOL

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So much faith. Faith Faith Faith.



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IF we get the transcript, this will be spun again. It started with it didn't happen, then went to "I did nothing wrong" to whats the big deal. The whole goal to steer any blame to the Biden's will force Trump to the offensive. "How come no one cares about their crimes? They did it first." Pay particular attention to when Trump had his interview with Stephanopoulos where he admits he would accept foreign aid against political rivals. Interesting timing in hindsight.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

IF we get the transcript, this will be spun again. It started with it didn't happen, then went to "I did nothing wrong" to whats the big deal. The whole goal to steer any blame to the Biden's will force Trump to the offensive. "How come no one cares about their crimes? They did it first." Pay particular attention to when Trump had his interview with Stephanopoulos where he admits he would accept foreign aid against political rivals. Interesting timing in hindsight.


Guess you will be eating SHIT once again!

Enjoy!

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Senate will protect him no matter what

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So how might the justice department explain why they refused to hand over the transcript within 7 days to congress, thereby breaking the law. How could they cite national security reasons as the basis to refuse to hand it over yesterday and apparently hand over the whole thing tomorrow with no redactions? I'm skeptical they will but it's the department of justice that will be eating their words.


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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

So how might the justice department explain why they refused to hand over the transcript within 7 days to congress, thereby breaking the law. How could they cite national security reasons as the basis to refuse to hand it over yesterday and apparently hand over the whole thing tomorrow with no redactions? I'm skeptical they will but it's the department of justice that will be eating their words.


Nope!

You will be eating shit!

AGAIN!

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 09/24/2019 02:28 PM
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Pelosi agreed to impeach trump....yall will be eating a TON of shit real soon!

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This will be fun. So how does the justice department justify stonewalling on a conversation that trump described as "perfect" only to let it verbatim a month later? I guess they whistleblower overheard the perfection and trump just thought it was too perfect to share until it was going to come out anyway?

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I'll be interested to hear what the recording has to say. I also wonder if they will ever say who the leaker was. If this recording turns out to show no signs of quid pro quo at all, then I will be convinced that Trump's team is responsible for leaking the story in order to inadvertently bring the story about the Bidens to the forefront while making Democrats looks stupid at the same time. Trump has a golden opportunity to do major damage due to the fact that the media will run with any story that makes him look bad, whether there is any truth to it or not, without verifying anything. He has the ability to set them up pretty easily. Same with his ability to have the DNC oppose any position he takes. He can support clean air and the Democrats will oppose him. He can push them so far left that they go off the cliff.

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I do think they threw a rabbit in the briar patch.

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Earlier today James Clapper said the following on CNN, "You know, I hate to suggest this, but it's crossed my mind that even if we got a transcript, well, can we be assured that's actually what was said? So getting a transcript may not be such a great thing, either."

Those are not the words of someone who is confident that this will bring Trump down. It sounds like Clapper is preparing Democrats for another letdown.

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Earlier today James Clapper said the following on CNN, "You know, I hate to suggest this, but it's crossed my mind that even if we got a transcript, well, can we be assured that's actually what was said? So getting a transcript may not be such a great thing, either."



Those are not the words of someone who is confident that this will bring Trump down. It sounds like Clapper is preparing Democrats for another letdown.


No, he is saying that Trump is a liar and a cheat and not beyond giving bogus information. The WH has already broken the law. To that there is no question.



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Nah, it is the words of someone that no longer trusts the current admin to tell the truth- even to the point producing fake documents. More than half the country concurs.

But you did make a good point about the leak coming from the Trump camp originally as a set up. It's a possibility. Buuuuut it would be a pretty smart thing to do- not exactly El Duce's forte.

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That's a classic roger stone type of trick.

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Yep. ..Thus it is a solid possibility.

We should get a couple of those going ourselves

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will release on Wednesday a transcript

Redacted? Like the Mueller Report was? Asking for a friend as I read the redacted Mueller report and would really like to read the rest of it.

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As i've said: no one trusts herr chumpf anymore.
The complaint to the inspector general, and the testimony of the american patriot who made it are the only things that matter here folks.
Hey cfldave: how pleasantly boring and uneventful a john kasich presidency would have been.......

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This all reeks of orchestration by the Trump camp. Trump can play games all day long until the journalists in this country get back to the basics and do their jobs by verifying their sources. Shame on the media and for Democrats for playing into their hands. This says more about the state of the media in our country than politics. Politics has always been a dirty game but the media needs to be better than tabloid bullshit.

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Well, I wouldn't jizz your shorts just yet- it's a theory, and not a hard one to come up with.

You can rest assured that Pelosi and co. have already thought that out.

Even CNN is making note of it:

http://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/...A+CNN+-+Top+Stories%29



As they say in the stock market- it's already been "priced in"

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Did he really call Pelosi and ask if they could "work something out"? That's not typical for him.

Unless he's just desperate to get the impeachment going, but still doesn't fit his MO.

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Unless he's just desperate to get the impeachment going, but still doesn't fit his MO................It might be better for Trump to get the Impeachment going NOW then wait until 30 days before the election.................Think about Pelosis track record..........She knew about the allegations against Kavenau for six months but waited until %90 of the confirmation hearing were complete before trotting them out.............This is the first time I've actually thought that maybe Trump did something to warrant an Impeachment inquiry.................Maybe................So Trump asked a foreign government to look into a past 'offence' by Biden about his son, trigger.........Governments all have a mechanism to do exactly this same thing.....We probably deal with many different governments and ask for and provide criminal and technical information....We have to have this sort of exchange of information...............I would assume it is through diplomatic channels and maybe through department of homeland security..............So, who has the authority to make the request for information.......................Congress might be able to direct somebodyelse to make the request but I don't think Congress can directly contact a foreign government and make the request themselves.......So the Administrative branch of Government is the only Branch that can directly contact a foreign power to request information........ Under what circumstances is the Administrative branch ALLOWED to ask a foreign government to look into something?.... Is there a Process or restriction on when and how the Administration can ask for information?....Is there a restriction on what kind of information they can look for?........SO...here's the thing, the transaction itself, the request for information is NOT impeachable..... What can they use from this to get Trump impeached?.... Campaign laws......Did Trump, misuse his office in asking for the information, in violation of US Campaign laws???.... That might fly..............Lets do this thing..................Impeach Trump, swear in Pence....... Go forth with the next Election........IF, Pence finishes Trumps term of office, he can still be elected to the Presidency 2 more times, right? So 1.5 years and 8 years..... Oh Hell yes.... Impeach TRUMP... lets do this guys, where do I sign up???

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I'm curious as to why Pelosi would announce the impeachment inquiry yesterday and not just wait a day for the transcript. If the Democrats' defense is going to be that they don't believe the transcript, then that isn't going to work well for them. Were the Democrats THAT eager or is there any strategy involved in this decision at all.

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Because without doing so twitler would never release $hit?
 09/25/2019 07:20 AM
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Trump announced he was releasing it today before she announced the impeachment inquiry.

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 09/25/2019 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Because without doing so twitler would never release $hit?


You do realize that Trump stated extremely clearly that the transcript would be released today......

BEFORE Pelosi made her announcement.

Soooo.....that makes your statement bullshit....

But you knew that.

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It's out. It went from potential ratfuckery to dumbfuckery.

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 09/25/2019 07:30 AM
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2020...D O N E ! ! ! !

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ript-read-the-document

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Edited: 09/25/2019 at 07:41 AM by Fish Killer
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The lefty play book is so predictable its embarrassing. All they got is a the Hail Mary and a cheer leading squad that can only scream "Racist." Never thought I'd say it, but Pelosi is the clearly the brightest one of them all and was their only hope of preventing a complete shut out. They fell for the fake out like Wile E Coyote and got their ass handed to them. Their game is over. The fans are exiting the stadium and burning jerseys in the parking lot. And if I may rub salt in the wound, they were out smarted by Donald Trump. That's got to hurt.
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Here's the funny part. Trump turned Rudy into Michael Cohen, a dirty loyalist willing to do his dirty work. Now it's out. Rudy was frantically explaining to fox that he sought to influence the Ukraine leadership as a member of the NSA. They have publicly stated that he never worked with them or for them. He was there as trump's personal lawyer pursuing trump's personal agenda. And he did so with American aid as his bargaining chip.


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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

And he did so with American aid as his bargaining chip.


Got any actual proof for that stinking humongous steaming pile if shit?

Hell no you dont!

LIAR!

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So, the same people who were claiming that Trump was in bed with Russia two days ago are now accusing Trump of being in bed with Ukraine but they still think he is in bed with Russia? SMH Anyone else see a problem with this? Anyone?

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Originally posted by: Sniper So, the same people who were claiming that Trump was in bed with Russia two days ago are now accusing Trump of being in bed with Ukraine but they still think he is in bed with Russia? SMH Anyone else see a problem with this? Anyone?
Maybe hes wanting to grab both of them by the pussy...
 09/25/2019 09:22 AM
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Zoos is back!

The "inquiry" is a nice move. It reminds everyone what a colossal sack of $hit the golfer in chief is.

Don't worry with the economy faltering and the GOP stance on the environment there will be plenty of other ways to point out what a waste of flesh the GOP Jesus is.
 09/25/2019 09:28 AM
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The "transcript" isn't a transcript, it's a 5 page memo which is clearly marked as not a verbatim transcript. But it looks shitty as hell for trump.

But it doesn't take the place of the whistle blower's complaint, which at the moment I think is being withheld? In spite of law stating "shall produce" to Congress.

Might take awhile? What the heck, Benghazi baby!

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