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Gee, I wonder why. Couldn't be because the chief dotard is dumber than dirt.

And in other news, the beach is sandy...

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If Russia approves, then I'm sold. Vote Trump, people. Of course we need to see which way Iran, NK and Venezuela go too.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

If Russia approves, then I'm sold. Vote Trump, people. Of course we need to see which way Iran, NK and Venezuela go too.

Not a complete disaster, only 40th ranked overall. Oh, shit, I guess that is a complete disaster...LMFAO

I love your dedication to sub-mediocrity, inspiring...


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If I was Vladie I'd want Trump to win too.

Many of Trump's roads (foreign policies) lead to Moscow.
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And the Cheeto has another tantrum and fires those who told the truth about 2020 Russian meddeling.

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But, , , , , then again, what is considered to be "meddling"?

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

But, , , , , then again, what is considered to be "meddling"?

Are you serious??!! Open your eyes...


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What ever it is it scared the Cheeto and he lashed out, again.

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No, really! What are the Russian supposedly, actually, doing?

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

But, , , , , then again, what is considered to be "meddling"?

Laughably stupid. Willfully ignorant.
Aka: the perfect magat dufus.....
Btw: silver foil hats!
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>>>>. In response to questions from Democrats, lawmakers were told that Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin, prefer Trump over his Democratic challengers and is still actively interfering in this year's election, according to the people. But little information has emerged on any specific or ongoing interference by Russia detailed in the briefing last week.

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Bernie Sanders briefed by US officials that Russia is attempting to help his campaign
Christal Hayes, USA TODAY
USA TODAYFebruary 21, 2020, 6:10 PM EST

WASHINGTON - U.S. officials have reportedly told Sen. Bernie Sanders that Russia is attempting to help his presidential campaign, a revelation that follows U.S. intelligence officials briefing Capitol Hill that the Kremlin may also be attempting to help President Donald Trump in 2020 as they did in 2016.

Sanders in a statement disavowed any alleged assistance from Russia President Vladimir Putin.

"I don't care, frankly, who Putin wants to be president. My message to Putin is clear: stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."

The warning about the Russia effort to help Sanders, which was first reported by The Washington Post, was also information given to Trump and lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

Sanders acknowledged he was briefed "about a month ago" about Russia's efforts, telling reporters Friday that he was "told Russia and other countries" were interfering in the elections.

"It was not clear what role they were going to play," he explained. "We were told that Russia and maybe other countries were going to get involved in this campaign."

When asked why this news was just coming out after he was briefed a month ago, Sanders said, "I'll let you guess, one day before the Nevada caucus. Why do you think it came out? It was the Washington Post? Good friends," he said with a wink.

Trump made mention of the Russia effort at a rally in Las Vegas Friday, casting doubt on the findings of his intelligence community that Russia was indeed working to help his campaign by saying it was just a Democratic-led effort to hurt him. He also mentioned Sanders specifically.

"I was told that was happening, I was told a week ago. They said, you know, they're trying to start a rumor. It's disinformation. That's the only thing they're good at, they're not good at anything else, they get nothing done. Do-nothing Democrats," Trump said.

He continued: "That Putin wants to make sure I get elected, listen to this. Doesn't he want to see who the Democrat is going to be? Wouldn't he rather have, let's say, Bernie? Wouldn't he rather have Bernie, who honeymooned in Moscow?"

'Propaganda to sow division'

In his statement, Sanders also pointed to some of the controversial comments made by some of his die-hard online fans who have been linked to inflammatory comments on social media.

"In 2016, Russia used internet propaganda to sow division in our country, and my understanding is that they are doing it again in 2020," Sanders said in the statement. "Some of the ugly stuff on the internet attributed to our campaign may well not be coming from real supporters."

Sanders was criticized last week after some of his supporters reportedly threatened members of Nevada's Culinary Workers Union for criticizing the senator's' Medicare for All plan.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., said that Sanders "has a lot of questions to answer" about the attacks on union leaders while former Vice President Joe Biden said the Vermont senator and current frontrunner in the nomination contest has to take accountability for the "misogynistic" attacks.

When asked about the issue at a CNN town hall Monday, Sanders said he is "totally against online bullying and harassment."

"I will condemn absolutely anybody, including my campaign or any other campaign, that makes vicious personal attacks against people," he said. "I don't tolerate ugly attacks against anybody."

In 2016, Russia waged an elaborate and sophisticated operation to sow division in the U.S. and upend the presidential election by using cyberattacks and social media as weapons.

The interference led to a nearly two-year investigation led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who concluded that Trump's campaign welcomed, even praised, the assistance from Russia. But while he said investigators did not gather sufficient evidence to prove a conspiracy, "problematic is an understatement" to describe some of Trump's conduct.

Since then, intelligence officials have repeatedly warned that the country would likely try to do the same in the 2020 election.

Contributing: Ledge King, Savannah Behrmann and David Jackson

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Bernie Sanders told Russia helping presidential campaign

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"But little information has emerged on any specific or ongoing interference by Russia detailed in the briefing last week."
Isn't this the same guy who posted about all this ultra super secret stuff his wife couldn't even reveal to him. After 50 years and a marriage?
But hey, it's vladdie's pet poodle we're tawkin here, right chumpf chump?
So revealing hard earned sources and methods to finally prove the glaringly obvious to the blatantly and willfully stupid is a great idea , huh dimpatch?
Even if our priceless assets get snuffed. But hey: the Russians are our bestest buddies!

"Any dolt that gets his political information from Facebook deserves to have his Voters registration revoked. Period."
But russian provided nonsense spread by infobreits, fux news, and your fat hero of pill popper freedom award winner: nooo problem.
duuuhhuuhuuh.....
this is your brain on mek:........aliens! They're here!

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Originally posted by: nukeh2o

Originally posted by: dingpatch



But, , , , , then again, what is considered to be "meddling"?


Laughably stupid. Willfully ignorant.

Aka: the perfect magat dufus.....

Btw: silver foil hats!

duuhhh....


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Originally posted by: dingpatch

But, , , , , then again, what is considered to be "meddling"?


You don't trust the very people your wife worked with?



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Cole,

Not the same "intelligence" folks. The current "National Security" election concerns are coming from the "public" face of the State. They themselves have not been cleared. And no, I don't, would not, trust the folks my wife worked for. They are the ones that likely had Kennedy killed, , , , , ,!!!!!! There is/was a "memo" that talked about "Lancer" asking questions and that such "Could Not Be Allowed". Probably No Big Deal if not for the fact that "Lancer" was the Secret Service's code name for JFK!!! More to the story, , , ,

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Cole,



Not the same "intelligence" folks. The current "National Security" election concerns are coming from the "public" face of the State. They themselves have not been cleared. And no, I don't, would not, trust the folks my wife worked for. They are the ones that likely had Kennedy killed, , , , , ,!!!!!! There is/was a "memo" that talked about "Lancer" asking questions and that such "Could Not Be Allowed". Probably No Big Deal if not for the fact that "Lancer" was the Secret Service's code name for JFK!!! More to the story, , , ,


19 separate agencies and they all come to the same conclusion? I don't understand what a ""public"" face is...



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No, I'm not questioning the fact that the "Russians" are supposedly still trying to influence the election. Heck, "Fredom of Speech" applies to everyone here. Russian BS is no different than Dem or Rep BS at this point!

Your reference to the "people your wife worked for" is the Catch 22. Did you view my recent "UFO cover up" post in NPNR? All of those assertions are pretty much spot on. The Director of the CIA himself was not "cleared" to know what was going on behind "those black doors" where my wife worked. I suspect that the group she was in just/only "used" the CIA to meet their random needs.

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It looks like an additional county in Florida was hacked in the last election. Why are the hiding the county names and what exactly did they do?

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Yep, "Good Old Boys" chugging along with their X386 computer machines, , , ,!

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Originally posted by: dingpatch Did you view my recent "UFO cover up" post in NPNR? .
Pwoof by wootube? Alrighty then. Russia promoted Jill Stein and others in both previous elections. I dont need the 'Alphabet Agencies' as the conspiracy nuts call them or youtube to tell me that. We had that fucking bot troll ION posting on here and Russia Today hosting the alternative candidates in debates plus a VIP gala in Moscow. So who's disinfo do you trust more.

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"Not the same "intelligence" folks. The current "National Security" election concerns are coming from the "public" face of the State. They themselves have not been cleared"
Bullshit. More silly chumpaganda nonsense.
Many if not most of the loyal patriotic intelligence analysts and agents bringing attention to Putin's subversion against my beloved america are former and current military folks. Others have dedicated their careers to fending off commie threats to our well being.
"Derp state"....lol
Fact is: comrade chumpf is a stinking traitor. If you support him in thwarting the efforts of our intelligence professionals to stop foreign subversion: so are you.
Period.

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you act like this is new; been goin on since end of ww 2
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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

you act like this is new; been goin on since end of ww 2

Wonder if wambchop even knows where ww2 was fought.
(Taught them pesky redskins a lesson, huh?)
Much less why.....
mmmbaahhaah.......



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Looks like you guys fell for another hoax. Some people never learn.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Looks like you fell for another sow. Some swine never learn.

Now: which branch of american intelligence services did agent "pigblo" mitty serve in again?
Perhaps during that stint as a nuclear scientist?
Btw: russia really is a true friend of america, huh porkchop?
all the way home: weeeee..........

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Settle down, nuke. Pretty soon you can cast your vote for Vladimir Sanders and get rid of Russian influence in the U.S. once and for all.Heh, heh.

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THIS is the guy pointing his finger at Trump and calling him an agent of Russia! LMFAO YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP. The Russians have the American left captivated like a cat to a laser pointer. The left in this country wants to believe anything negative about Trump so desperately that they are eating out of Russia's hands. These guys must be having so much fun with you. You are literally being Truman Showed.



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dingbatch too lazy to use the google-izer. It's assured he won't find any info in the vapid wasteland that is right wing snooze

Just a small example of how they could do things

So there is hacking and releasing information (DNC computers hacked)
Internet trolling of social media
Making up $hit (Russia made up story ukraine was behind election interference)
Fund the NRA!
Trying to hack election systems

The commies have been our enemies forever, heck ding may have even been around for cold war drills getting under your desk. And ding has the audacity to question what they could do? Too much twitler supporting.

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2016 is very old news.

Now, in regard to Greens's "bullets, , , , ,

Hacking is not too nice, if it is actually, currently, being done, or otherwise attempted?

Internet trolling of "social media" is, in ALL CASES, No Big Deal. Any dolt that gets his political information from Facebook deserves to have his Voters registration revoked. Period.

Making shit up. No Big Deal, who doesn't make shit up?

What does funding the NRA have to do with anything?


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It makes sense they would help Sanders, they are optimistic of a Trump victory if Bernie is the nominee.
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Except there was no internet then genius deeerrrrrp

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Snipe doesn't know what the "left" is, he's talking about liberals. Should we dig up videos of what trump was up to in 1988? How about you?

On the left we're not worried about Russia, trump will cheat if he gets the chance, we're just going forward with the battle in the DNC. If we win there we'll be around for your boy in due time.



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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Snipe doesn't know what the "left" is, he's talking about liberals. Should we dig up videos of what trump was up to in 1988? How about you?

On the left we're not worried about Russia, trump will cheat if he gets the chance, we're just going forward with the battle in the DNC. If we win there we'll be around for your boy in due time.


What was Trump up to in 1988? Not whateverTF is going on in that video i posted above. LOL What was I up to? Probably pretending a stick was a sword in my backyard.

"trump will cheat if he gets the chance,..." AHHH. Thanks for the heads-up. What do you think he might do? Funnel money through a law firm to buy a document full of Russian lies from Russian sources, written by a Brit and then use it to spy on his opponents?

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: RustyTruck



Snipe doesn't know what the "left" is, he's talking about liberals. Should we dig up videos of what trump was up to in 1988? How about you?



On the left we're not worried about Russia, trump will cheat if he gets the chance, we're just going forward with the battle in the DNC. If we win there we'll be around for your boy in due time.




What was Trump up to in 1988? Not whateverTF is going on in that video i posted above. LOL What was I up to? Probably pretending a stick was a sword in my backyard.



"trump will cheat if he gets the chance,..." AHHH. Thanks for the heads-up. What do you think he might do? Funnel money through a law firm to buy a document full of Russian lies from Russian sources, written by a Brit and then use it to spy on his opponents?


"WhateverTF"? Did you watch it? Bernie's on holiday, got his shirt off, pounding some vodka shots and singing "This Land is Your Land" by Woody Guthrie. American as apple pie.

Trump already tried to strong arm another country into investigating Biden which flopped. He'll try whatever. He's well known for cheating at golf, lying and cheating is part of his shtick. Guys like you will believe anything.



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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Snipe doesn't know what the "left" is, he's talking about liberals. Should we dig up videos of what trump was up to in 1988? How about you?

On the left we're not worried about Russia, trump will cheat if he gets the chance, we're just going forward with the battle in the DNC. If we win there we'll be around for your boy in due time.


What was Trump up to in 1988? Not whateverTF is going on in that video i posted above. LOL What was I up to? Probably pretending a stick was a sword in my backyard.

"trump will cheat if he gets the chance,..." AHHH. Thanks for the heads-up. What do you think he might do? Funnel money through a law firm to buy a document full of Russian lies from Russian sources, written by a Brit and then use it to spy on his opponents?


"WhateverTF"? Did you watch it? Bernie's on holiday, got his shirt off, pounding some vodka shots and singing "This Land is Your Land" by Woody Guthrie. American as apple pie.

Trump already tried to strong-arm another country into investigating Biden which flopped. He'll try whatever. He's well known for cheating at golf, lying and cheating is part of his shtick. Guys like you will believe anything.


OHHHH, okay. It's no big deal. Let's say we remove Bernie from that video and replace him with Trump or anyone in his inner circle. Still no big deal? See how double-standards work?

Also, if you don't think there was some pay-to-play action going on with why Hunter Biden was being handed millions of dollars each year then I have no idea how to help you. I'm not making any assumptions about the legality of the situation but it reeks to high heavens of corruption. If you don't see it, replace the name "Hunter Biden" with "Donald Trump Jr." then you might be able to see it. Had Donald Trump Jr. been paid millions of dollars by Ukraine and China for subjects he knew nothing about while he can barely keep his ass out of rehab for more than 6 months at a time, you would have more questions about the situation than you do when we are talking about Hunter.

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Which of our candidates do you think Russia is going to prefer in this election? The shirtless idiot in that video, drinking vodka with his comrades and singing, in Russia or the guy giving Ukraine missiles designed to take out Russian tanks?

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OK, if there was a video of a shirtless trump doing vodka shots and singing folks songs, I might actually like a guy a tiny bit.

As for Biden, there's no evidence anything illegal happened. Unethical? Hell yeah, they're all grifters, the trump babies too. The elite maintain their positions of power doing that shit and it's time for it to end.
Hunter is a spectacular fail son. I head he blew a guy for crack cocaine, not sure if that's true but he's a colossal F-up. Same with Donnie Jr. Fail sons both of them.

But I'm not worried about trump, he is what he is and as long as he has collaborators in the Senate he's the mob boss, no doubt.

I'm interested in what happens in the DNC, that's where the action is.

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Most likely trump, they have a relationship based on secret meetings and back room stuff. Both are authoritarians, with trump the junior partner.

They will probably try to boost Sanders in the Dem primary because it's highly disruptive for the Dem party, and that's what they want. Destabilization. Trump may find out too late that they're not his friend after all.

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So why does trump break protocol and prevent any of his conversations with Kislyak and Putin be recorded and reviewed by the people that form our expertise on them?

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 02/25/2020 08:29 PM
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Sniper

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Easy. Because of the leaks. He knows his executive privilege comes with a caveat. The same people who don't give a shit about what Obama said on a hot mike are ready to impeach trump for the same. Speaking of that, how's that impeachment working out for you?

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 02/26/2020 03:52 AM
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He was impeached.

As I recall, Obama said when the election was over. Obama wasn't looking for election help, which is illegal in the eyes of the Constitution.

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